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Originally posted by clearblue:
it's a fun product to bust.. almost everyone that's opened this product will probably agree.. if you open more than a pack or more than a box, i think the fun factor grows even more.. clearly all boxes cannot be winners and Razor never said there would be more than one of the highend cards.. it's not surprising to me that you haven't heard reports of any of these cards being hit because not everyone posts their findings, brags about their pulls, or sells stuff on eBay. It's hardly scientific to think they're non-existent just because one hasn't come across some of the listed hits. I have a Guillermo Del Toro.. that's quite decent. This isn't directed at anyone, well, maybe the haters of this product.

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Originally posted by MRBONG411:
I have just got back into collecting after about 10 years of not collecting and this thread amazes me.

Here we have Adam saying no comment to some very important questions aabout these cards and this product.

Then there is proof from someone that some of the high end cards were being listed on ebay and not even inserted into packs and no one seems to care very much?

Wow. Amazing.

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Originally posted by bufbills98:
Just got an interesting email, guess all the other non auto stuff is on a new site called <edited> its the same owner as has been on ebay Hux777

In email said they have over 50 pallets of product still to sort thru so look back daily. If your set builder like me its a great site, prices look ok...

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Originally posted by bufbills98:
Its working for me, I just checked it again.

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Originally posted by HIM:

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Originally posted by MRBONG411:
I have just got back into collecting after about 10 years of not collecting and this thread amazes me.

Here we have Adam saying no comment to some very important questions aabout these cards and this product.

Then there is proof from someone that some of the high end cards were being listed on ebay and not even inserted into packs and no one seems to care very much?

Wow. Amazing.

Think about one thing..has every pack been opened?

Unless we were able to verify that every single pack made fot his line up was opened, we would then have to be able to track each and everyone that was opened to verify what was pulled.

Even then, I know of several people that rely on local shows or nothing at all for their purchases because they dont trust people on the internet. So its safe to say that there are packs or boxes being opened at shows by people who wont post results on a message board or post what they dont want for sale on ebay.

Theres no real way to verify wether the top tier cards were or werent inserted.

Even with that logic, I agree that its very shady that someone from the company refuses to answer some very important questions as soon as its discovered what they were doing on ebay.

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Originally posted by Chuck Bartowski:

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Originally posted by HIM:

Theres no real way to verify wether the top tier cards were or werent inserted.

Even with that logic, I agree that its very shady that someone from the company refuses to answer some very important questions as soon as its discovered what they were doing on ebay.

Brian did explain this issue on another forum...basically they bought a ton of autos from Inkworks, and the ones they listed on eBay were extras. They have so many autos that there is rumor that there will be a second wave of Ink Archives to be released. He did end up removing the auctions after the issue was brought up, and he said they would go in the second release should there be one.

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Originally posted by Scifi_Collector:

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Originally posted by Chuck Bartowski:

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Originally posted by HIM:

Theres no real way to verify wether the top tier cards were or werent inserted.

Even with that logic, I agree that its very shady that someone from the company refuses to answer some very important questions as soon as its discovered what they were doing on ebay.

Brian did explain this issue on another forum...basically they bought a ton of autos from Inkworks, and the ones they listed on eBay were extras. They have so many autos that there is rumor that there will be a second wave of Ink Archives to be released. He did end up removing the auctions after the issue was brought up, and he said they would go in the second release should there be one.

So let me see if I understand this
Razor bought Inkworks autograph cards,
Released information for slabing and selling cards within boxes and cases.....

Sold individual autograph cards on ebay.

Stopped selling autograph cards on ebay because people found out who was really selling the cards.

Will release a second release of slabed cards within boxes and cases from the cards that were not sold on ebay.

Shady?

You decide.

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Originally posted by Chuck Bartowski:

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Originally posted by Scifi_Collector:

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Originally posted by Chuck Bartowski:

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Originally posted by HIM:

Theres no real way to verify wether the top tier cards were or werent inserted.

Even with that logic, I agree that its very shady that someone from the company refuses to answer some very important questions as soon as its discovered what they were doing on ebay.

Brian did explain this issue on another forum...basically they bought a ton of autos from Inkworks, and the ones they listed on eBay were extras. They have so many autos that there is rumor that there will be a second wave of Ink Archives to be released. He did end up removing the auctions after the issue was brought up, and he said they would go in the second release should there be one.

So let me see if I understand this
Razor bought Inkworks autograph cards,
Released information for slabing and selling cards within boxes and cases.....

Sold individual autograph cards on ebay.

Stopped selling autograph cards on ebay because people found out who was really selling the cards.

Will release a second release of slabed cards within boxes and cases from the cards that were not sold on ebay.

Shady?

You decide.

It would say not...the cards are the company's to do with what they want...if they want to sell them individually go for it...if they want to pack them out go for it...from what I've seen of the breaks they put plenty of great cards into the product.

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Originally posted by chesspieceface:
The only thing that matters to me is, are the cards in question well designed? Do they feature subjects whose autographs I'd like to acquire? Are they certified authentic? If the answer to these questions are yes, than there is little else to consider.

These Razor releases are a great boon to collectors since cards that once indefinitely sat in a file cabinet will now be placed into the hands of those who want them, one way or another.

If you do not trust the "pack-out" process, just don't buy any of Razor's sealed product (don't worry as it will sell out without you) and instead purchase the singles from the people (and there are many it seems) who buy the product simply to open the packs and immediately sell them you-know-where.
I'm not sure where the "fun" is in that, but I guess it takes all kinds to make this crazy world go 'round.

I just wonder how folks are still able to type with hands wrung so very much over so very little...

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I just wonder how folks are still able to type with hands wrung so very much over so very little...

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Originally posted by HawaiianMadmacs:

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I just wonder how folks are still able to type with hands wrung so very much over so very little...

And I wonder how folks put honesty below shady sneakiness, then wonder how other people might be upset. Strange world indeed.

Got the feeling that folks that proclaim 'narcs' and 'snitches' as bad, but genuine two-faced jerks as good - are the same folks? Mebbe we oughta give Madoff a party instead? You know, in keeping with our inverse-reality?