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I see on most of the major news networks that the UK and other European nations won't ship packages to the USA due to tariffs.

A UK dealer told me, yes, this is true. He can't send boxes or padded envelopes with cards. But he can insert cards individually in letters.

However, one of the big UK card companies has said this is not true, that they can send boxes

Anyone know ?
 
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I think the news report shown below in the link says it all especially with the new tax applying as of today. Ebay sales or lack of them will be interesting.

[URL='It's a chaotic mess': UK firms warn over US small parcel tax - BBC News]News Report[/URL]

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Goods under £800 were exempt from import duties. Now,under the new rules, they attract same as larger parcels. Anything other than a letter will attract the charge. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg3yjnq5zeo

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Goods under £800 were exempt from import duties. Now,under the new rules, they attract same as larger parcels. Anything other than a letter will attract the charge. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg3yjnq5zeo


It's a shame, but now Americans will see what we have had to put up with for years with VAT and import duty set at £18.00 since God's dog was a pup!
 
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And the handling charge
 
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I have seen this message on some ebay auctions


Due to US policies, import fees for this item will need to be paid to customs or the shipping carrier on delivery.
 
Posts: 4983 | Location: Bayonne, NJ, USA | Registered: May 06, 2001Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by David R:
I have seen this message on some ebay auctions


Due to US policies, import fees for this item will need to be paid to customs or the shipping carrier on delivery.


DISCLAIMER-THE FOLLOWING IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS SUCH. THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION AND I URGE YOU TO PERFORM YOUR OWN LEGAL RESEARCH AND CONCLUSIONS OR CONSULT WITH AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR JURISDICTION.

For the last 4 years, I have been selling the cards from my collection exclusively to customers located in the United States from Costa Rica where I'm currently retired. I have delivered hundreds of cards to these customers without a hitch. but if I were a USA-based buyer and saw the ominous warning eBay has added to foreign card sellers' listings, I would honestly be very hesitant to purchase a card being shipped from another country for fear of having to pay a minimum tariff of $80 for it, even if the card costs $3.

This new and incorrect eBay notice at the top of each listing is affecting hundreds, if not thousands, of non-sports card sellers worldwide, including myself. I have reached out to eBay to try to explain their mistake, but to no avail thus far, despite their promise that I would hear back within 24 to 48 hours after filing the complaint, which was done many days ago.


1. eBay has now added a bold general notice to all international listings that tariffs, duties, and import fees apply if you're shipping from a country other than the USA. Not "may need to be paid ", but simply "will need to be paid". No exclusions or clarifications. Just a blanket statement! Caveat Emptor in its truest application.

They do this as a catch-all disclaimer because for most sellers shipping foreign-made goods into the U.S., tariffs do apply after the August 29th removal of the $800 de minimis exemption.

2. However, items that are U.S.-made goods and returning to the U.S. are covered by (Harmonized Tariffs) HTSUS 9801.00.10, which states clearly that such products re-enter the U.S. duty-free, regardless of value.

This treatment is independent of the August 29th de minimis changes — the law Trump signed has no effect here because it governs foreign-origin goods, not U.S. goods returned.


3. HTSUS 9801.00.10 is a separate statutory provision (19 U.S.C. §1202; tariff schedule adopted into law) that covers “Products of the United States when returned after having been exported, without having been advanced in value or improved in condition abroad.”

Duty rate for 9801.00.10 = “Free” — meaning no tariff ever, regardless of value.

4. Do they conflict? No. They cover different universes of goods:

Trump’s August 29 change: foreign-made goods entering the U.S.

HTSUS 9801.00.10: U.S.-made goods returning home.


5. Legal Meaning of “Articles of Foreign Origin”
In U.S. trade law, “origin” means country of manufacture or production, not the country of export.

This is established in 19 C.F.R. Part 102 (Rules of Origin) and numerous CBP rulings.

Example: 19 C.F.R. § 102.1(e) defines country of origin as:

“the country of manufacture, production, or growth of any article of foreign origin entering the United States.”

So, an item made in the U.S. but shipped from most other countries is still of U.S. origin, not “foreign origin.”

6. CBP Rulings / Guidance
HQ Ruling H285602 (2017): CBP confirmed that “country of origin” refers to where goods were manufactured, not the country they were shipped from.

In my opinion, eBay is overreaching by adding an all-encompassing, inaccurate banner to its non-USA-based sellers' listings to cover itself legally and financially. My research indicates that they are missing the fact that any item originally made in the United States, which becomes physically located in another country, regardless of how long, but is then sent back to the United States, unaltered, must enter the USA duty and tariff-free. But Ebay fails to mention that or make any distinction between the 2 laws.

Yet, this applies to millions of cards made in the USA, but currently residing in other countries, which can now be repatriated (sold) without the imposition of tariffs upon reentry!

I have carefully culled my eBay listings to sell cards only printed in the USA and have begun adding explanatory language to my listings until eBay wakes up and corrects its huge mistake.

Note that some card manufacturers have their cards printed in another country exFrownBreygent, Dart, Cards Inc, Tempo, etc), which, if I'm right, would subject those cards to an importation tariff if mailed from outside the USA to the USA since they were not printed there, even if the card manufacturer is an American-based company.

Ebay has yet to respond to my complaint and request to modify their banner, whose current language is annihilating my retirement small business.

Meanwhile, because I am confident of my analysis and opinion, I have drafted language addressed to US Customs, which I will affix to all my packages advising them of the applicable law and the reason why tariffs don't apply to returning USA-made goods. I'll keep you updated if I make any sales and, if so, whether my customer was asked to pay a tariff.

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Posts: 1076 | Location: Overseas | Registered: May 22, 2001Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by promoking:

...Yet, this applies to millions of cards made in the USA, but currently residing in other countries, which can now be repatriated (sold) without the imposition of tariffs upon reentry!

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Note that some card manufacturers have their cards printed in another country exFrownBreygent, Dart, Cards Inc, Tempo, etc), which, if I'm right, would subject those cards to an importation tariff if mailed from outside the USA to the USA since they were not printed there, even if the card manufacturer is an American-based company.


In practice a customs inspector is not going to know where an individual card has been manufactured, and would likely put the tariff based on where the card has been sent from.
 
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In practice a customs inspector is not going to know where an individual card has been manufactured, and would likely put the tariff based on where the card has been sent from.


It's a distinct possibility, and that's why I've drafted a notice (which I'm glad to share), stamped in dark blue ink on the back of the envelope, containing the necessary information indicating why the package should enter the USA tariff free.

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Posts: 1076 | Location: Overseas | Registered: May 22, 2001Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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HiPromoking
Regarding your selling your collection of Promo Cards .
How do I go about finding your selling list?
I have searched everywere and can not find a selling list from you.
The Promoking site I have only brings up 3 cards if there is another site to go too could you please notify me of how to get to it .
I am or will be interested in some of the articles you have for sale
Thank You
Ross
AKA Piko
 
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