Hi, i recently took my old cards out of storage and with only 65 to go and having adult money now, i ordered a booster box of 36 packs to try get close to completing my collection. then an hour later found a guy selling 350 on gumtree cheap and ended up getting almost everyone i needed...including half the ultra rares and a promo.
my question is: with that many ultra rares and fixed needed, am i crazy to try find them in this box? i would need 3 ultra rares and 4 rares to make it worth the cost of the box. instead of just selling the box and buying the ones i need on ebay.
Does anyone remember the ratio's in these boxes?This message has been edited. Last edited by: handicapabletrader,
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June 08, 2020, 05:39 AM
piko
I think it was 1 to zero per pack but not sure . I purchased a couple of packs when they came out but dont know what is what , I will go through them and see what is in them . But go to the Site Map on the bottom of most pages Scroll down to Trading Cards in Collectibles . Type in X Files CCG cards There are a lot for sale you might have to buy them as I have not seen any that i can remember for trade My interest is only in the Promos and I still need four or five And welcome to the forum
June 08, 2020, 11:25 AM
barobehere
The fixed cards would be in a starter box. You got 1 rare or ultra rare in every pack. I can't remember the odds anymore. I won a contest from a gaming magazine and got 4 or 5 boxes. Still did not finish the set. This was during the CCG craze. The game itself is not fun to play.
June 08, 2020, 12:20 PM
handicapabletrader
thanks for the welcome piko. and yeah it was real clunky to play. i remember me and my sister tried to play the first day they came out and it was awful.never pklayed it again. couldn't really believe they just threw it together and until a week ago i didn't even know that there was an expansion. i just collected these as an x files nut who had not been diagnozed with ocd yet it helped that i made about $7 a week for odd jobs and that was the cost of one pack. i think at the start my dad bought me and my sis a starter deck and she gave hers to me thinking the game was silly. i only bought one more starter deck but bought a lot of boosters to make this set.
nslists says: "Starter decks included 20 cards, banded together, with "fixed" cards available only in this grouping plus other common cards that are available there as well as elsewhere. Also in each starter deck box were 40 loose cards, including 25 commons/fixed, 12 uncommons, and 3 rares. Booster boxes held 36 packs of 15 cards each." no mention of ultra rares in starter decks so maybe opening booster packs is the way to go. they should be at the post office and it would be nice to just tear them all open.
i've got to give respect to themidianguard.com.au for offering to help complete my collection. he sells CCG & boardgames if anyone's interested.
and the promo cards i'm really interested in. i've only got 2 and they're both mulligan. after completing the retail set, i'm kinda planning on buying the whole 23 from the premiere set in one go because they seem to turn up on ebay regular in sets.
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June 08, 2020, 12:55 PM
Tommy C
I remember buying the James Bond "Goldeneye" CCG cards around 1995 or 1996, not to play the game, but just to collect all of the cards.
Assembling a set by buying packs and boxes ended up costing me around $ 700. Those were the days before ebay.
June 08, 2020, 01:32 PM
handicapabletrader
oh man .complete series ten and 11 is selling for $4000 on ebay. that put's it well out of my price range. my pension doesn't give me that much spending money in a year
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June 08, 2020, 02:23 PM
handicapabletrader
update: wiki says "Ultra-rare cards could be found only in booster packs, randomly replacing one of the rares in the pack" so no mention of ratios but i'm gunna find out soon
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June 08, 2020, 08:06 PM
allender
I'll start by quoting myself: "There are many disagreements among XFCCG checklists on how to report the rarity of the different cards." I never saw enough breakdown reports to get a good ratio for Ultra-Rares. But an old Scrye price guide that listed cards individually put Rares at $1.80 and Ultra-Rares at $13-$20 each. When I was an active trader, we settled on about a 5:1 trade value for UR versus R.
So a Booster box of 36 packs held maybe 6 Ultras. Collation was notably poor for v1. I had to get a bunch of my Ultras in trades and never did score 0172 Scully Abducted. (Maybe it's time to complete this set!)
Complicating things a bit were the facts that some R/UR were found loose in Starter boxes. Most of the v1 Rares were also found in v2 packs, but Ultra-Rares were all exclusive to either v1 or v2.
"Fixed" cards were a bit weird because they weren't all found in every Starter box. I ended up splitting them into "Fixed Common" and "Fixed Uncommon" groupings, but the main factor was that they were not found in Booster packs.
I tried to clarify some of the oddities at http://nslists.com/xfccg1.htm but I still get confused. There were a lot of conflicting reports "back in the day", partly due to the poor collation (which was much better in v2, but the repeated cards are marked XF96 in v1 and XF97 in v2).
June 08, 2020, 08:13 PM
allender
Oh, you also mentioned a promo card. Here's a list of known XFCCG promos. If anybody knows any others, please let me know. http://nslists.com/xfccgp.htm
June 08, 2020, 09:06 PM
allender
quote:
Originally posted by Tommy C: I remember buying the James Bond "Goldeneye" CCG cards around 1995 or 1996, not to play the game, but just to collect all of the cards.
Back in those "good old days" most CCG makers would overprint the first editions and the early expansions to blanket retail-store racks hoping that the game would catch on. A year or so later, you could often get overstocked boxes and cases dirt cheap. That's when I bought a bunch of series because there was a decent chance of collecting all of the Rares, especially since there were a lot more traders around. I can't tell you how many boxes of Commons I ended up discarding, after I had built enough "complete Common sets" and "complete Uncommon sets".
Artwork and design made them interesting to me as collectibles, even if you never played the game and didn't complete a set. Opening another box to fill in the Rares scratched the itch to open packs. I still have some unopened cases that cost less than $10 including shipping.
By the mid-1990s, more CCG makers printed only about as many cases as they figured would sell, based on previous expansions. Eventually it became cheaper to print a second wave of cards if you sold out the first printing. Either way, the days of "dirt-cheap gaming cards if you wait a year" ended.
"In the days before ebay" but after the growth of the internet, there were card consolidators, some of whom actively searched for overstocks by dealers, letting them empty storage units full of unsold product. I fondly remember 1990s deals from Abon, Paul & Judy, Marchant, etc. By 2000 ebay made it easier for dealers to sell off their own overstocks, and ebay is where "dumped product" moved.
June 09, 2020, 12:50 AM
handicapabletrader
hey thanks mate question answered-ish 6 ultra rares is still worth opening the case for. i'm a gambling man and so close to finishing the set. and yeah it was confusing at the time. i was the only collector of these i knew and i got three of the kuzdin card in my only 3 starter decks. and people are asking $44 for it on ebay now. i've actually got a price guide page cut out from 1996/7 (probably wizard since i have mulligan) common 5c-30c uncommon 75c-$1.50 rare $3-$6 fixed 25c-75c and the UR range from $18-$30 very straightforward. too straightforward. so it seems even wizard didn't understand the wierdness of cards like duane barry turning up once in my 1000 cards in my experience
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June 09, 2020, 12:56 AM
handicapabletrader
and i can't express how much V2 ruined my experience of this set by colating the cards so much better it was a lot less like being a ten year old gambler ,only bought 3 boosters. plus the OCD in me hated to see those teal borders in the gaps in my folder full of black bordered cards
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June 09, 2020, 01:08 AM
handicapabletrader
and yeah complete that set my friend. i got my scully abducted finally last week and it felt so good. (i think because the two adds i have stuck in my folder are a4 versions of that card and the UR mulder. if i get another abducted scully i will surely let you know
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June 09, 2020, 07:33 AM
wolfie
I've got a ccg set but mine is the Alien vs Predator from Decipher. I have all the cards but am missing a few of the promo cards.
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June 10, 2020, 02:29 AM
handicapabletrader
well my 36 boosters arrived so i will be able to give ratios for that box soon...but i just got home from part of a root canal (now australia has non essential surgery back) and 1/3 of the novocaine dripped out of my gum but the dentist didn't notice. i've never spent a half hour clenching like that in my life so i am going to leave my booster box until i stop shaking Peace
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June 10, 2020, 05:01 AM
handicapabletrader
ok, a bunch of painkillers later and i had the open box on the edge of my bed and knocked it off spilling a quarter of the packs out so this won't be a map at all but just ratio's for 36 packs of premiere series in one sealed box. although i have tried to place the packs back where it looked like they fell from, and will be going through the packs from top to bottom and lef to right this will reference Allenders values of rareness.
cards go from the top of the pack down.
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June 10, 2020, 05:17 AM
handicapabletrader
somebody please tell me if casemapping is not permitted here the top of the pack is commons and then uncommons. the rares almost always in the bottom and the ultra rare right in the middle. pack 1 mainly sites 068 075 087 091 061 046 047 048 049 072 rare 078 074 077 005 rare 006 rare
last pack mainly bluff 131 132 093 094 095 097 098 100 102 101 105 107 109 057 rare 059 rareThis message has been edited. Last edited by: handicapabletrader,
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June 10, 2020, 06:07 AM
allender
quote:
Originally posted by handicapabletrader: somebody please tell me if casemapping is not permitted here
It's permitted and encouraged! But there's a separate section called "Box Breakdowns" where breaks are collected for posterity (since May 2003), they're easily searchable, and recent reports are shown at the top. If a set is not in the "recent" group, use the Search because the alphabetical sorting by title can be misleading.
Usually we don't go so far as mapping every pack for common cards. Summarizing ratios, listing chase card pulls, telling people progress to completing a series over a case or more, and showing links to images of special cards are popular.This message has been edited. Last edited by: allender,
June 10, 2020, 06:28 AM
allender
Amending: Recently released sets are grouped at the top. There's a link to recent reports but it doesn't seem to work any more.
June 10, 2020, 08:37 AM
handicapabletrader
man i can see why this series caused disagreemants because i never would have thought i'd get so many similar packs in one box. i think as a kid, by buying one pack a week i avoided this piling up of doubles. in my original collection i had 300 from the set and only 120 doubles. i think this case has nearly 100 cards doubled. 3 packs had almost identical layout. oh well .i got deep throat
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