Hi, i recently took my old cards out of storage and with only 65 to go and having adult money now, i ordered a booster box of 36 packs to try get close to completing my collection.
then an hour later found a guy selling 350 on gumtree cheap and ended up getting almost everyone i needed...including half the ultra rares and a promo.

now all i need are:

119 fixed
127 fixed
162 ultra rare
164 fixed
172 ultra rare
174 ultra rare
243 ultra rare
270 ultra rare
284 ultra rare
293 ultra rare
339 fixed
and the promos

my question is:
with that many ultra rares and fixed needed,
am i crazy to try find them in this box?
i would need 3 ultra rares and 4 rares to make it worth the cost of the box.
instead of just selling the box and buying the ones i need on ebay.

Does anyone remember the ratio's in these boxes?

This message has been edited. Last edited by: handicapabletrader,

I think it was 1 to zero per pack but not sure .
I purchased a couple of packs when they came out but dont know what is what , I will go through them and see what is in them .
But go to the Site Map on the bottom of most pages
Scroll down to Trading Cards in Collectibles .
Type in X Files CCG cards
There are a lot for sale you might have to buy them as I have not seen any that i can remember for trade
My interest is only in the Promos and I still need four or five
And welcome to the forum

The fixed cards would be in a starter box. You got 1 rare or ultra rare in every pack. I can't remember the odds anymore. I won a contest from a gaming magazine and got 4 or 5 boxes. Still did not finish the set. This was during the CCG craze. The game itself is not fun to play.

thanks for the welcome piko.
and yeah it was real clunky to play. i remember me and my sister tried to play the first day they came out and it was awful.never pklayed it again. couldn't really believe they just threw it together and until a week ago i didn't even know that there was an expansion. i just collected these as an x files nut who had not been diagnozed with ocd yet it helped that i made about $7 a week for odd jobs and that was the cost of one pack. i think at the start my dad bought me and my sis a starter deck and she gave hers to me thinking the game was silly. i only bought one more starter deck but bought a lot of boosters to make this set.

nslists says:
"Starter decks included 20 cards, banded together, with "fixed" cards
available only in this grouping plus other common cards that are available there as well as elsewhere. Also
in each starter deck box were 40 loose cards, including 25 commons/fixed, 12 uncommons, and 3 rares.
Booster boxes held 36 packs of 15 cards each."
no mention of ultra rares in starter decks so maybe opening booster packs is the way to go.
they should be at the post office and it would be nice to just tear them all open.

i've got to give respect to themidianguard.com.au for offering to help complete my collection.
he sells CCG & boardgames if anyone's interested.

and the promo cards i'm really interested in.
i've only got 2 and they're both mulligan.
after completing the retail set, i'm kinda planning on buying the whole 23 from the premiere set in one go because they seem to turn up on ebay regular in sets.

I remember buying the James Bond "Goldeneye" CCG cards around 1995 or 1996, not to play the game, but just to collect all of the cards.

Assembling a set by buying packs and boxes ended up costing me around $ 700. Those were the days before ebay.

oh man .complete series ten and 11 is selling for $4000 on ebay. that put's it well out of my price range. my pension doesn't give me that much spending money in a year

update: wiki says "Ultra-rare cards could be found only in booster packs, randomly replacing one of the rares in the pack" so no mention of ratios but i'm gunna find out soon

I'll start by quoting myself: "There are many disagreements among XFCCG checklists on how to report the rarity of the different cards." I never saw enough breakdown reports to get a good ratio for Ultra-Rares. But an old Scrye price guide that listed cards individually put Rares at $1.80 and Ultra-Rares at $13-$20 each. When I was an active trader, we settled on about a 5:1 trade value for UR versus R.

So a Booster box of 36 packs held maybe 6 Ultras. Collation was notably poor for v1. I had to get a bunch of my Ultras in trades and never did score 0172 Scully Abducted. (Maybe it's time to complete this set!)

Complicating things a bit were the facts that some R/UR were found loose in Starter boxes. Most of the v1 Rares were also found in v2 packs, but Ultra-Rares were all exclusive to either v1 or v2.

"Fixed" cards were a bit weird because they weren't all found in every Starter box. I ended up splitting them into "Fixed Common" and "Fixed Uncommon" groupings, but the main factor was that they were not found in Booster packs.

I tried to clarify some of the oddities at http://nslists.com/xfccg1.htm but I still get confused. There were a lot of conflicting reports "back in the day", partly due to the poor collation (which was much better in v2, but the repeated cards are marked XF96 in v1 and XF97 in v2).

Oh, you also mentioned a promo card. Here's a list of known XFCCG promos. If anybody knows any others, please let me know. http://nslists.com/xfccgp.htm

quote:

Originally posted by Tommy C:
I remember buying the James Bond "Goldeneye" CCG cards around 1995 or 1996, not to play the game, but just to collect all of the cards.

Back in those "good old days" most CCG makers would overprint the first editions and the early expansions to blanket retail-store racks hoping that the game would catch on. A year or so later, you could often get overstocked boxes and cases dirt cheap. That's when I bought a bunch of series because there was a decent chance of collecting all of the Rares, especially since there were a lot more traders around. I can't tell you how many boxes of Commons I ended up discarding, after I had built enough "complete Common sets" and "complete Uncommon sets".

Artwork and design made them interesting to me as collectibles, even if you never played the game and didn't complete a set. Opening another box to fill in the Rares scratched the itch to open packs. I still have some unopened cases that cost less than $10 including shipping.

By the mid-1990s, more CCG makers printed only about as many cases as they figured would sell, based on previous expansions. Eventually it became cheaper to print a second wave of cards if you sold out the first printing. Either way, the days of "dirt-cheap gaming cards if you wait a year" ended.

"In the days before ebay" but after the growth of the internet, there were card consolidators, some of whom actively searched for overstocks by dealers, letting them empty storage units full of unsold product. I fondly remember 1990s deals from Abon, Paul & Judy, Marchant, etc. By 2000 ebay made it easier for dealers to sell off their own overstocks, and ebay is where "dumped product" moved.

hey thanks mate question answered-ish 6 ultra rares is still worth opening the case for. i'm a gambling man and so close to finishing the set. and yeah it was confusing at the time. i was the only collector of these i knew and i got three of the kuzdin card in my only 3 starter decks. and people are asking $44 for it on ebay now. i've actually got a price guide page cut out from 1996/7 (probably wizard since i have mulligan)
common 5c-30c
uncommon 75c-$1.50
rare $3-$6
fixed 25c-75c
and the UR range from $18-$30
very straightforward. too straightforward.
so it seems even wizard didn't understand the wierdness of cards like duane barry turning up once in my 1000 cards in my experience

and i can't express how much V2 ruined my experience of this set by colating the cards so much better it was a lot less like being a ten year old gambler
,only bought 3 boosters.
plus the OCD in me hated to see those teal borders in the gaps in my folder full of black bordered cards

and yeah complete that set my friend. i got my scully abducted finally last week and it felt so good. (i think because the two adds i have stuck in my folder are a4 versions of that card and the UR mulder. if i get another abducted scully i will surely let you know

I've got a ccg set but mine is the Alien vs Predator from Decipher. I have all the cards but am missing a few of the promo cards.

well my 36 boosters arrived so i will be able to give ratios for that box soon...but i just got home from part of a root canal (now australia has non essential surgery back) and 1/3 of the novocaine dripped out of my gum but the dentist didn't notice. i've never spent a half hour clenching like that in my life so i am going to leave my booster box until i stop shaking
Peace

ok, a bunch of painkillers later and i had the open box on the edge of my bed and knocked it off spilling a quarter of the packs out
so this won't be a map at all but just ratio's for 36 packs of premiere series in one sealed box.
although i have tried to place the packs back where it looked like they fell from,
and will be going through the packs
from top to bottom and lef to right
this will reference Allenders values of rareness.

cards go from the top of the pack down.

somebody please tell me if casemapping is not permitted here
the top of the pack is commons and then uncommons.
the rares almost always in the bottom and the ultra rare right in the middle.
pack 1
mainly sites
068
075
087
091
061
046
047
048
049
072 rare
078
074
077
005 rare
006 rare

pack 2
mainly x files
149
150
151 fixed
153
154
155
156
134
136
109
111
056
062
265 rare
267 rare


man this is definitely distracting me from everything. i never had more than one pack of these in a week that wasn't x-mas or B'day's.


pack 3
mainly x files
137
138
139
140
141
142
143
144
130
066
072 rare
078
074
271 rare
230 rare


pack 4
half bluffs
131
132
093
094
095
097
098
100
102
077
080
081
082
231 rare
234 rare

pack 5
mainly sites
103
108
112
060
063
064
071
069
073
024
025
030
031
238 rare
240 rare

pack 6
mainly sites
068
075
087
091
061
046
047
048
049
038
036
037
039
241 rare
242 rare

pack 7
mainly half sites half combat
050
052
053
054
058
002
007
008
009
043
051
001
003
244 rare
245 rare ONE I NEEDED!

PACK 8
mainly half event half combat
010
254
027
282
283
042
300
307
312
004
011
014
017
247 rare ONE MORE!
212 rare

PACK 9
mainly equipment
313
314
320
318
321
328
332
233
235
019
020
022
023
213 rare
214 rare

pack 10
mainly sites
214 rare
061
046
047
048
049
050
052
053
054
222 ultra rare deep throat yay
062
066
072 rare
078

pack 11
mainly sites
103
108
112
060
063
064
071
069
073
111
056
062
066
044
067 rare

pack 12
mainly event
246
253
272
280
281
288
296
287
157
340
341
343
345
215 rare
217 rare

pack 13
half witness
158
159
184
190
202
205
206
225
228
346
348
350
351
219 rare
223 rare

pack 14
mainly x files
145
147
146
149
150
152
153
154
155
086
306
310
311
226 rare
229 rare

pack 15
mainly adversary
156
153
136
137
138
139
140
141
142
316
319
317
323
191 rare
193 rare

pack 16
half x files
144
113
117
121
123
126
128
129
130
324
330
331
277
194 rare
197 rare

pack 17
half bluff
131
132
093
094
095
097
098
100
102
034
040
287
289
098
199 rare

pack 18
half sites
103
108
112
060
063
064
071
069
073
291
223 rare
229 rare
301
200 rare
201 rare

pack 19
mainly sites
068
075
087
091
061
046
047
048
049
302
026
255
256
203 rare
204 rare

pack 20
mainly half sites half combat
215
058
002
007
008
009
010
254
027
028 rare
284 NEEDED THAT ULTRA RARE YAY!
074
077
080
081

pack 21
half combat half sites
050
052
053
054
058
002
007
008
009
080
081
082
024
113
018 rare

pack 22
mainly combat
010
254
027
282
283
042
300
307
312
025
030
031
038
012 rare
015 rare

pack 23
mainly equipment
313
314
320
318
321
328
332
233
235
036
037
039
043
016 rare YAY ANOTHER
021 rare

pack 24
mainly events
246
253
272
280
281
288
296
298
157
051
001
003
004
028 rare
029 rare

pack 25
a mix
158
159
184
190
202
205
206
225
228
011
014
017
019
327 rare
329 rare

pack 26
mainly x files
145
147
146
149
150
152
153
154
155
020
022
023
340
334 rare
337 rare

pack 27
mainly x files
156
134
136
137
138
139
140
141
142
341
343
345
346
338 rare
342 rare

pack 28
half sites quarter combat quarter event
050
052
053
054
058
002
007
008
009
258
259
260
263
070 rare
076 rare

pack 29
half events
010
254
027
282
283
042
300
307
312
266
268
269
209
084 rare
085 rare

pack 30
half equipment quarter events
313
314
320
318
321
328
332
233
235
211
221
224
227
090 rare
104 rare

pack 31
mainly events
246
253
272
280
281
288
296
298
157
232
236
237
239
106 rare
220 rare

pack 32
half witness
158
159
184
190
202
205
206
225
228
249
114
115
116
185 rare
186 rare

pack 33
mainly x files
145
147
146
149
150
152
153
154
155
118
188
189
192
032 rare
035 rare

pack 34
mainly x files...again
156
134
136
137
138
139
140
141
142
195
196
207
088
033 rare
041 rare

pack 35
mainly half x files half bluff
144
113
117
121
123
126
128
129
130
089
092
096
099
045 rare
055 rare

last pack
mainly bluff
131
132
093
094
095
097
098
100
102
101
105
107
109
057 rare
059 rare

This message has been edited. Last edited by: handicapabletrader,

quote:

Originally posted by handicapabletrader:
somebody please tell me if casemapping is not permitted here

It's permitted and encouraged! But there's a separate section called "Box Breakdowns" where breaks are collected for posterity (since May 2003), they're easily searchable, and recent reports are shown at the top. If a set is not in the "recent" group, use the Search because the alphabetical sorting by title can be misleading.

Usually we don't go so far as mapping every pack for common cards. Summarizing ratios, listing chase card pulls, telling people progress to completing a series over a case or more, and showing links to images of special cards are popular.

This message has been edited. Last edited by: allender,

Amending: Recently released sets are grouped at the top. There's a link to recent reports but it doesn't seem to work any more.

man i can see why this series caused disagreemants because i never would have thought i'd get so many similar packs in one box. i think as a kid, by buying one pack a week i avoided this piling up of doubles.
in my original collection i had 300 from the set and only 120 doubles. i think this case has nearly 100 cards doubled. 3 packs had almost identical layout.
oh well .i got deep throat