Lovely looking set, but one I like to call a lifetime set because it would probably take that long to complete. I will edit this post if any more boxes come my way.

Box 04571
Base cards
84 - 6 missing for a set, no duplicates.
Base Card Ship Puzzle Back Parallel Set - 1/pack
24 - 1 duplicate
BLOODLINES - 1:24
BL6A - Quark
PICARDS JOURNEY - 1:12
PJ10, PJ29
IN THE PALE MOONLIGHT - 1:12
PM13, PM17
STAR TREK ALIENS - 1:48
A1
ALL GOOD THINGS UNCUT - 1:12
AGT11, AGT28
RELIC CARDS - 1:24
SR14
AUTOGRAPHS - 1:8
A34 Suzie Plakson as K'Ehleyr (Classic TV) (Extremely Limited)
LA28 Celia Rose Gooding as Nyota Uhura (Legends) (Extremely Limited)
Giovanni Spina as Sta'Kiar (Aliens) (Limited)

Box 07590
Base cards
84 - 6 missing for a set, no duplicates.
Base Card Ship Puzzle Back Parallel Set - 1/pack
24 - 1 duplicate
BLOODLINES - 1:24
BL4A - Saru
PICARDS JOURNEY - 1:12
PJ06, PJ25
IN THE PALE MOONLIGHT - 1:12
PM09, PM27
STAR TREK ALIENS - 1:48
A3
ALL GOOD THINGS UNCUT - 1:12
AGT07, AGT24
RELIC CARDS - 1:24
SR20
AUTOGRAPHS - 1:8
A11 Robert Duncan McNeill as Tom Paris (Classic TV) (Extremely Limited)
A28 Bruce Horak as Hemmer (Classic TV) (Limited)
Liam Hughes as Young Spock (Aliens) (Limited)

Box 06614
Base cards
83 - 7 missing for a set, no duplicates.
Base Card Ship Puzzle Back Parallel Set - 1/pack
24 - No duplicates
BLOODLINES - 1:24
BL5A - Worf
PICARDS JOURNEY - 1:12
PJ08, PJ27
IN THE PALE MOONLIGHT - 1:12
PM11, PM15
STAR TREK ALIENS - 1:48
A2
ALL GOOD THINGS UNCUT - 1:12
AGT09, AGT26
RELIC CARDS - 1:24
SR19
IN MEMORIAM - RENE AUBERJONOIS
M4 017/125
AUTOGRAPHS - 1:8
Rodrigo Fernandez-Stoll as Nalas (Aliens) - not listed.
A17 Oyin Oladejo as Lt. Joann Owosekun (Classic TV) (Extremely Limited)
A54 April Grace as Ensign Hubbell (Inscription - "Transporter Chief") Quantity Range: 26-50

Box 07589
Base cards
84 - 6 missing for a set, one duplicate.
Base Card Ship Puzzle Back Parallel Set - 1/pack
24 - No duplicates
BLOODLINES - 1:24
BL4B - Siranna
PICARDS JOURNEY - 1:12
PJ07, PJ26
IN THE PALE MOONLIGHT - 1:12
PM10
ALL GOOD THINGS UNCUT - 1:12
AGT08, AGT25
OH CAPTAIN, MY CAPTAIN - 1:48
MC7
RELIC CARDS - 1:24
SR4
AUTOGRAPHS - 1:8
LA34 Michael Dorn as Worf (Legends) (Extremely Limited)
Phumzile Sitole as General Diatta Ndoye (Women of Star Trek - Signature only) (Very Limited)
Paul Guilfoyle as Carl (The Guardian of Forever) (Aliens) (Limited)

Box 09798
Base cards
84 - 6 missing for a set, one duplicate.
Base Card Ship Puzzle Back Parallel Set - 1/pack
24 - No duplicates
BLOODLINES - 1:24
BL1B - Deanna Troi
PICARDS JOURNEY - 1:12
PJ08, PJ20
IN THE PALE MOONLIGHT - 1:12
PM05, PM17
ALL GOOD THINGS UNCUT - 1:12
AGT02, AGT19
OH CAPTAIN, MY CAPTAIN - 1:48
MC1
OH CAPTAIN, MY CAPTAIN METAL PARALLEL
MC7-06/75
RELIC CARDS - 1:24
SR14
AUTOGRAPHS - 1:8
LA36 Michael Dorn as Worf (Legends) (Extremely Limited)
Luke Humphrey as V'Latak (Aliens) (Limited)
A72 Orla Brady as Tallinn (Full Bleed) (Extremely Limited)

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Opened my case the other day and got these:
Case topper - CT1 (for some reason they are card stock this time and not metal)
Many base sets (didn't sort them all)
3 - puzzle back parallel sets and many extras
1 - 27 card "In the Pale Moonlight" set w/4 duplicates
32 of 36 "All Good Things" cards
32 of 36 Picard's Journey cards
16 of 18 Bloodlines cards
7 of 9 Aliens cards
9 of 10 Oh Captain, My Captain cards
1 - Oh Captain, My Captain Metal variant card
16 different relic cards
1 - Nichelle Nichols "In Memoriam" cards
2 - Rene Auberjonois "In Memoriam" cards
1 - magenta printing plate for Pale Moonlight card #15

These autograph cards:
Adrian Sparks as Entharan Magistrate (Aliens) (L)
Alfredo Narciso as Ohvahz (Aliens) (L)
Bob Clendenin as Vidiian Surgeon (Aliens) (L)
A28 Bruce Horak as Hemmer (Classic TV) (L)
Christina Dixon as Lt. Commander Asha (Aliens) (L)
David Carson as Director (Bordered) (L)
Dennis Cochrum as Orek (Aliens) (L)
Jin Maley as Ensign Kova Rin Esmar (Aliens) (L)
Kavi Raz as Lt. Junior Grade Singh (Bordered) (L)
Leland Crooke as Gelnon (Aliens) (L)
Michael Hough as Remy (Aliens) (L)
Patrick Kerr as Bothan Infiltrator (Aliens) (L)
Peter Slutsker as Nibor (Aliens) (L)
Randy Oglesby as Trena'l (Aliens) (L)
Rodrick McNeail as Stonn (Aliens) (L)
Steven Rankin as Cardassian Officer (Aliens) (L)
Tom Todoroff as Darod (Aliens) (L)
Tony Nappo as Primarch Ruhn (Aliens) (L)
Denise Crosby as Tasha Yar (Bridge Crew) (VL)
Dylan Locke as Cadet #1 (Full Bleed) (VL)
Ito Aghayere as Guinan (Bordered) (VL)
LA55 Jack Quaid as Brad (Legends) (VL)
Joseph Culp as Raimus (Aliens) (VL)
Kim Braden as Ensign Janet Brooks (Women of Star Trek) (VL)
Larry Cedar as Nydrom (Bordered) (VL)
Lindy Booth as Alora (Aliens) (VL)
Saul Rubinek as Kivas Fajo (Aliens) (VL)
Warren Scherer as Gorn Invader (Aliens) (VL)
Alexander Siddig as Julian Bashir (Bordered) (EL)
A45 - Alison Pill as Dr. Agnes Jurati (Full Bleed) (EL)
LA40 - Brent Spiner as Data (Legends) (EL)
LA28 - Celia Rose Gooding as Nyota Uhura (Legends) (EL)
Elizabeth Dennehy as Elizabeth Shelby (Women of Star Trek) (EL)
Jason Isaacs as Gabriel Lorca (Bordered) (EL)
Marcelo Tubert as Acost Jeard (Bordered) (EL)
Martha Hackett as T'Rul (Bordered) (EL)
LA34 Michael Dorn as Worf (TNG) (Legends) (EL)
A4 Patrick Stewart as Captain Picard (Classic TV) (EL)
Robert Beltran as Chakotay (Bridge Crew) (EL)
Santiago Cabrera as Cristobal Rios EMH (FB) #A53 (EL)
Stephanie Czajkowski as Lt. T'Veen (Aliens) (EL)
LA57 - Emily Coutts as Keyla Detmer (Legends) (S)
A14 Garrett Wang as Harry Kim (Classic TV) (S)
A7 George Takei as Sulu (Classic TV) (S)
A32 Martin Rayner as Dr. Chaotica (Classic TV) (S)
A33 Robert Picardo as President of Earth (Classic TV) (S)
April Grace as Ensign Hubbell (Inscription - "Transporter Chief") QR: 26-50
Scott Bakula as Archer (Auto Relic) (EL)

All in all, a pretty good case. I really like the new "Classic TV" style of
autograph cards. I've got 1 more box on the way, hoping to fill some of the
insert holes. We'll see!

Thanks for the breakdown, Greg. That's a nice haul. I didn't know Saul Rubinek was signing for any of the Star Trek sets. He played a memorable charactor, Kivas Fajo, and he was in only one episode of The Next Generation. In the fossil collecting hobby, there are Trekkies who tease each other about who is the "Fajo" among fossil collectors - who is striving to have the best collection (trilobites, shark teeth, dinosaur teeth, etc.). I once read that there are even more greedy collectors with the dinosaur model/memorabilia hobby. At least one individual has been known to buy some super-rare item he already has just to keep a rival from getting one (just like Fajo).

I think it's good that RA keeps producing franchise card sets on older titles like Star Trek, Game of Thrones, Doctor Who, Twin Peaks, Twilight Zone. Did I miss any?

We can always use more cards, more autographs, more quality products, but it has reached a point of diminishing returns for franchise titles with multiple past releases. Interested collectors already have most or all of the big cards. The money is too high to keep repeating what you have and the new additions, usually in limited quantities, can't support a considerable investment that is not guaranteed to yield anything the buyer needs or wants.

From that case break there is actually only one autograph that I never picked up and would hope to pull. There are a couple of other very limited autograph cards on eBay that I would like, but not for the price. That's it for me, so I passed when offered boxes. Too bad, I like the cards.

Isn't it time for RA to discount these franchise titles? And by discount, I mean under $100 a box retail. Cut back the cost on the number of insert cards, numbered cards, colored foil cards, manufactured relic cards, huge base set cards. No one but case breakers can make them anyway. Put in a couple of autograph hits and maybe a random sketch hit in the boxes and leave it at that.

For new titles, new content, RA can load up on the price. But for franchise titles that are squeezing out the tube, charge less and allow the longtime fans the opportunity to buy it out with blind boxes. I just don't understand how the price of anything, but especially a non-essential item, can keep rising when the supply is increasing and the demand is decreasing. That is against one of the principles of basic economics. Where is logic? You could say we don't require any, but I think the current state of the non-sport card hobby is showing otherwise.

I don't if it's possible to make a "Star Trek" box for under $100 anymore. I don't know what the designing, editing, printing, packaging, and shipping costs are now. You know those prices have risen since the late 90's.

Monsterwax has done recent "Lost in Space" sets with all artwork by one very talented artist and those boxes are under $100. There are some chase cards (stickers, metal cards) and an artist bio card (half were autographed). Did they fly off the shelves? Would a similar "Star Trek" set do well? I don't know. I think you'd have to juice it up with some sketches.

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Originally posted by catskilleagle:
I don't if it's possible to make a "Star Trek" box for under $100 anymore. I don't know what the designing, editing, printing, packaging, and shipping costs are now. You know those prices have risen since the late 90's.

Agreed, design, printing and manufacturing costs are way higher than when $60 could get you a premium box. But $160 per on a 9000 box print run of a franchise title that has no new seasons is a bridge too far for me.

Is it necessary to have base sets so large that they require multiple boxes to complete? Is it necessary to have numbered variants of the same base cards? Is it necessary to have multiple small insert card sets taking up pack space? Won't eliminating these extras that add minimal value save production money?

Licensing fees are costly, but they are normally good for several years. Autograph cards are necessary, but 2 per box would be fine. Consider that RA does a great job of stockpiling signature cards acquired years and years ago. We know that by the release of new autograph cards from deceased people that keep turning up. RA paid for these long ago, so new price increases don't apply. The majority of new signers from old titles are not stars and don't garner big bucks for common autograph cards.

I get that cost goes up for card manufacturers, but boxes have to have enough average value to match the SRP without losing more than half what you paid. It was OK to get $30 of value from a $60 box because the loss was in the risk taken. At $160, the risk is greater. For franchise titles, the rewards are generally less because title fans already have these cards and are maybe interested in only a couple of cards that they will find individually on eBay.

At some point, the price of non-sport card boxes of popular franchise titles running on fumes have to max out. At some point, card collectors will no longer bust packs. For me it's already happened.

I hear you, Raven. Yeah, make the base set smaller so you can get one base set in a box. It's frustrating when you get only 25-40% of a set in a box. Tracking down tens of cards afterwards would be tedious unless you don't mind the long game.

Some people seem to like the parallels but maybe do one per pack and then maybe just one other rarer one. Parallels must be the cheapest chase cards to make. I thought the similar "First Day" parallels in the Mars Attacks redo in '94 was good but the practice became less special not long after that.

Right, there might be only 2-3 autographs (and some that would be okay) you'd really like to get in a box out of a field of 20-40 total signers so the odds are against you. You might not recognize the signer nor the character of the autograph you'll probably get but you're willing to gamble sometimes.

Anyway, I have bought very few recent boxes (Mandalorian Chrome Beskar Edition from 2022 and the Book of Boba Fett - both marked down from original SRP but Beskar went back up since) and can't remember at the moment what box I bought before that. However, I am still thinking of getting a box of this. Might be the best gamble at less than $200. Otherwise, I'm thinking of getting a box of SuperStars MusiCards from way back in 1991 just to see what I get - the mix of variations and maybe a good error card with a tiny chance at the hologram (case card).

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Originally posted by Raven:

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Originally posted by catskilleagle:
I don't if it's possible to make a "Star Trek" box for under $100 anymore. I don't know what the designing, editing, printing, packaging, and shipping costs are now. You know those prices have risen since the late 90's.

Agreed, design, printing and manufacturing costs are way higher than when $60 could get you a premium box. But $160 per on a 9000 box print run of a franchise title that has no new seasons is a bridge too far for me.

Is it necessary to have base sets so large that they require multiple boxes to complete? Is it necessary to have numbered variants of the same base cards? Is it necessary to have multiple small insert card sets taking up pack space? Won't eliminating these extras that add minimal value save production money?

Licensing fees are costly, but they are normally good for several years. Autograph cards are necessary, but 2 per box would be fine. Consider that RA does a great job of stockpiling signature cards acquired years and years ago. We know that by the release of new autograph cards from deceased people that keep turning up. RA paid for these long ago, so new price increases don't apply. The majority of new signers from old titles are not stars and don't garner big bucks for common autograph cards.

I get that cost goes up for card manufacturers, but boxes have to have enough average value to match the SRP without losing more than half what you paid. It was OK to get $30 of value from a $60 box because the loss was in the risk taken. At $160, the risk is greater. For franchise titles, the rewards are generally less because title fans already have these cards and are maybe interested in only a couple of cards that they will find individually on eBay.

At some point, the price of non-sport card boxes of popular franchise titles running on fumes have to max out. At some point, card collectors will no longer bust packs. For me it's already happened.

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Originally posted by catskilleagle:
Otherwise, I'm thinking of getting a box of SuperStars MusiCards from way back in 1991 just to see what I get - the mix of variations and maybe a good error card with a tiny chance at the hologram (case card).

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Recently I've been picking up a few retail boxes of movies and shows released 10 - 15 years ago. The cards were still well made back then, and I missed ever seeing them. No bells and whistles, but for under $30 bucks including the shipping, I'm just enjoying opening packs.

To be clear, Star Trek Connections looks like a loaded product and RA consistently puts out the best hobby boxes in the market today. When I talk about franchise titles getting watered down and costing too much, it's because of all the previous releases. I could say the same thing about Topps with Star Wars and UD doing Bond. Many experienced long-time card collectors of those franchises have just thrown up their hands and quit. If the box prices were reduced on these almost legacy titles, they would find it hard to resist. We are after all hooked into our habits.