So I bought a couple boxes of the new Razor Ink set and got more Rittenhouse auto's then anything else. I got Twilight Zone, Highlander, Farscape and Wild Wild West in the boxes as well as 4400 Alias, and Smallville. Any one else got mostly Rittenhouse in theirs?

I got:
Box 1 :
A box of Indiana Jones: KOTCS- No Auto's
Farscape: Through The Wormhole- A43 Marta Dusseldorp
4400 season 1- A1 Jacqueline McKenzie
Highlander Expansion Set- IA4 Elizabeth Gracen as Amanda
and
Witchblade- A6 John Hersley

Box 2:
A box of Series 1 New Moon
Smallville Season 6- A54 Tyler Posey
Quotable Xena- A35 Tsianina Joelson as Varia
Wild Wild West- A3 Lloyd Bochner (Zachariah Skull)
And
Twilight Zone Series 4- Jeanne Cooper as Liz in "Mr. Denton on Doomsday"

Overall not to bad i might pick up a couple more just for kicks.

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Did you get a sketch in your Indy box?

No it was a pretty bad box. I hate Topps anyway but it would have been nice to get somthing other then a few inserts out of it.

At least we can say that is no fault of Razor. I checked out the breakdown thread for that release and it seems Topps let out a lot of dud boxes. Shame. Nothing I hate more.

My case arrived a few minutes ago and I have to admit I was quite surprised with it's contents.

The 20 wax boxes were all different and as the ads for this product stated some different brands were included. I scored a box of Heroes Volume 2(Topps) and STOS 1 (RA) box to go along with 18 boxes of Inkworks products.

As the original poster mentioned the majority of the autographs are Rittenhouse Archive cards.
Here is my breakdown:
Razor Pop Century Autographs
2x Audrina Patridge (The Hills)
1x Chris (Kid) Reid
Inkworks (29)
Morena Baccarin (Firefly)
Gina Torres (Firefly)
Jonathan M. Woodward (Firefly)
Veronica Hamel (LOST)
L. Scott Caldwell (LOST)
Marsha Thomason (LOST)
Joe Dante (Small Soldiers)
Patrick Fluger (4400)
2x Billy Campbell (4400)
Joel Gretsch (4400)
Jeffrey Combs (4400)
Rauan Smith (4400)
Brooke Nevin (Smallville)
Rekha Sharma (Smallville)
Rob Freeman (Smallville)
Kyle Gallner (Smallville)
Greyston Holt (Smallville)
Lee Thompson Young (Smallville)
Zack Ward (Charmed)
Scott Jack (Charmed)
Kerr Smith (Charmed)
Max Greenfield (Veronica Mars)
Francis Capra (Veronica Mars)
Teddy Dunn (Veronica Mars)
Kevin McNulty (Supernatural)
Angus Scrimm (Alias)
Adam Baldwin (Angel)
John Ortiz (AVP Requiem)
Rittenhouse Archives (48)
Richard Anderson (Six Million Dollar Man)
Peter Wingfield (Highlander Exp)
Claudia Christian (Highlander)
Alan Scarfe (Highlander)
Ocean Hellman (Highlander)
James Horan (Highlander)
Amanda Wyss (Highlander)
Adam Beach (Deadzone)
Julie Patzwald (Deadzone)
Alvin Sanders (Deadzone)
Phoebe Dorin (WWW)
Sue Ane Langdon (WWW)
Jean Hale (WWW)
Lloyd Bochner (WWW)
Bob Herron (WWW)
Roger Cross (First Wave)
Sebastian Spence (First Wave)
Rob LaBelle (First Wave)
Hudson Leick (Xena & Hercules)
2x Tsianina Joelson (X&H)
Karen Shepero (X&H)
Robert Trebor (X&H)
Timothy Omundson (X&H)
Michael Ansara (Lost In Space)
Alison Wall (Xena)
KAte Elliot (Xena)
Dean O'Gorman (Xena)
Erik Thomason (Xena)
John D'Aquino (Xena)
Adrienne Wilkinson (Xena)
Garwin Sanford (SG Atlantis)
Alan Scarfe (SG Atlantis)
Peter Wingfield (SG-1)
Carmen Argenziano (SG-1)
Colin Cunningham (SG-1)
Barry Morse (Twilight Zone)
John Heard (Battle Star Galactica)
Tahmoh Penikett (BSG)
James Patrick Stuart (BSG)
Anne Lockhart (BSG)
Sarah Rush (BSG)
Andrew Prowse (Farscape)
Tina Bursil (Farscape)
Bianca Chiminello (Farscape)
Chris Haywood (Farscape)
Francesca Buller (Farscape)
Alyson Standen (Farscape)

Arvin, what were the boxes of Inkworks products that were inserted this time?

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Originally posted by non-sportcards:
Arvin, what were the boxes of Inkworks products that were inserted this time?

I'm glad you asked as going back through I noticed that I had special box I hadn't listed.
Elvis Presley (Presspass)
Alias Season 3, Alias Season 4, 4400 Season 1, 4400 Season 2, The World is Not Enough, Shrek The Third, Jericho Season 1, Family Guy Episode IV, Journey To The Center 3D, Smallville Season 5, Smallville Season 6, AVP Requiem, The Seeker, Golden Compass, LOST Season 2, LOST Season 3, Hellboy Sword of Storms.

I hope this helps you.

Here's a breakdown of my case of Razor Vault 2010 and I was very surprised at the contents:
Box 1- Alias Season Three
A28 Margot Kidder-Smallville
A6 Dorian Gregory-Charmed
A4 Veronica Hamel-Lost
Christopher "Kid' Reid-Razor Pop Century
Box 2-Heroes Volume 2
A4 Grant Heslov-Scorpion King
A16 Tamlyn Tomita-Highlander
A4 John Hannah-Mummy Returns
A25 Amanda Foreman-Alias
Box 3-Sopranos
A3 Will Yun Lee-Witchblade
A13 Emilie De Ravin-Lost
A28 Michael Bowen-Lost
A4 Laura Bertram-Andromeda
Box 4-Jericho
Audrina Patridge-Razor Pop Century
A18 Michael McKean-Smallville
A43 Camden Toy-Angel
A8 Patrice Fisher-Charmed
Box 5-Star Trek TOS 2009
A89 Bill Erwin-Twilight Zone
A2 Eli Navarro-Veronica Mars
A2 Arnold Vosloo-Mummy Returns
A2 Bernard Hill-Scorpion King
Box 6-Buffy Men Of Sunnydale
A33 Kyle Gallner-Smallville
A20 Lucas Grabeel-Veronica Mars
A41 KD Aubert-Buffy
Tsianina Joelson-Xena & Hercules
Box 7-Scooby Doo Mysteries & Monsters
A5 Gordon Michael Woolvett-Andromeda
A5 KD Aubert-Spike
A5 Eric Etebari-Witchblade
A42 Felix Williamson-Farscape
Box 8-Lost Season 2
A23 Neil Flynn-Smallville
A4 Veronica Hamel-Lost
A6 Don Stanton-Looney Tunes
A5 Rebecca Balding-Charmed
Box 9-Journey to The Center of the Earth
A2 Lisa Ryder-Andromeda
A7 John Terry-Lost
A12 Joel Gretsch-4400
A3 Sherri Howard-Scorpion King
Box 10-Andromeda ROTC
A3 Billy Campbell-4400
A15 L. Scott Caldwell-Lost
A7 Sam Sorbo-Andromeda
A6 John Hensley-Witchblade
Box 11-The 4400 Season 2
A2 Peter Coyote-4400
Lance Henriksen-Aliens Vs Predator
A4 Anthony Cistaro-Witchblade
A17 Meighan Desmond-Xena
Box 12-Smallville Season 6
Nicki Clyne-Battlestar Galactica
A-FP Frank Pellegrino-Sopranos
A7 Katey Sagal-Lost
A6 Brent Stait-Andromeda
Box 13-Alias Season 4
A3 Jennifer Rhodes-Charmed
A39 Jonathan Woodward-Angel
A37 Alan Ritchson-Smallville
A5 Michael Gaston-Jericho
Box 14-Veronica Mars Season 1
A3 Julie Bowen-Lost
A3 Rob LaBelle-First Wave
A-MS Matt Servitto-Sopranos
A9 Max Greenfield-Veronica Mars
Box 15-Dark Is Rising The Seeker
A39 Denise Quinones-Smallville
A33 Gina Torres-Alias
S3 Joe Dante-Small Soldiers
A41 Tom Lenk-Angel
Box 16-Family Guy Star Wars
A9 Zack Ward-Charmed
A4 Malcolm David Kelley-Lost
A5 KD Aubert-Spike
A2 Dorian Gregory-Charmed
Box 17-4400 Season 1
A6 Oded Fehr-Charmed
A50 Tahmeh Penikett-Smallville
A26 Kelly Donavan-Buffy
A11 Byron Chung-Lost
Box 18-Hellboy Animated
A3 Drew Fuller-Charmed
A37 Vincent Kartheiser-Angel
A3 Jeffrey Jones-Sleepy Hollow
A10 Ian Whyte-Aliens vs Predator
Box 19-AVP Requiem
A43 Rekha Sharma-Smallville
A40 Alisen Down-Smallville
A21 David Cronenberg-Alias
S4 Stan Winston-Small Soldiers
Box 20-Lost Season 3
A36 Elya Baskin-Alias
A21 Christine Estabrook-Veronica Mars
A26 Elizabeth Mitchell-Lost
A7 Kevin McNulty-Supernatural

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IMO: The auto pulls have been subpar compared to the last release.

I wonder if Razor bought out a bunch of RA inventory to fill out the product.

I'm glad I only purchased 2 boxes of this release. I'll post my breaks when they arrive.

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Originally posted by LUZNDAVE:
IMO: The auto pulls have been subpar compared to the last release.

We haven't seen anything really huge yet, but since I missed out on the first release, I still think we are seeing a nice breakdown for this set. There are definitely autos being posted I would not mind having. Besides, maybe the really big ones are in our boxes . I only got two as well.

Hi Board,
Just received my case yesterday and was very disappointed. Nothing but sub-par autographs. In the first release, it seemed you were getting 1 big auto and 3 mediocre, with this one, 4 mediocre. My only good hits were from Star Trek 2009 M Harltey and a PW2 from Alias season 3. Those were both out of the box. At least the boxes werent $100+.

Had a customer pick out the boxes he wanted and then opened 1 from what was left.

Sealed box of Golden Compass

4400-
A-14 Samantha Ferris as Nina Jarvis
Charmed-
A6 Dorian Gregory as Darryl Morris
Smallville-
A27 Erica Durance as Lois Lane
Veronica Mars-
A-10 Paula Marshall as Rebecca James

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Originally posted by eshegg:
At least the boxes werent $100+.

Is that the price of the first set? Or were they about the same as this one?

I think for the pre-sale price (about $40 per box by the case), you really can't go wrong, not sure any of the boxes seen so far would merit the retail price of $50 plus. At $40 per vault, figure the average unopened box is "worth" $20 and that makes the autos cost the buyer about $5 each.

With that said, Razor has to understand how disappointed customers who purchased their previous Inkworks liquidation sets will be if the breaks shown thus far are an indication of this product as a whole. Should that be the case, the sales will stop very soon on these. Then again, since I was told these were allocated, that may not be a concern of Razor's since they'll have already banked the money for the sellout. However I hope they would not be so short sighted in that regard, as they would really leave dealers holding the bag with unsold boxes that aren't even worth cracking for the pulls, since you'd have little to no chance of re-couping the $40 you've laid out for each Vault's contents, let alone making a profit from them.

Further, if this set is anything less than well received, it will absolutely doom Razor's own own "Americana" type release they've already announced, at the same time giving the seeming legion of Razor haters more fuel for their fire.

Collectors should have been tipped off, at least somewhat, however when the autograph count went from 3 to 4 per vault, that perhaps the overall quality of autos had come down a bit. But because the first 2 releases were so loaded with big cards (to Razor's credit), this final release will be considered a major disappointment if the breakdowns continue to be less than stellar. Sort of a curse that comes with perhaps giving a little too much on the first 2 go-rounds.

It is very clear Razor thought they were finished with these types of sets (an Razor employee is on the record as saying so), only to later realize they could pick up a bunch of low end Rittenhouse autos, some more closeout Inkwork boxes, up the autograph count, add a few "preview" autos from their own release, and make one more nice payday from their remaining stock of lower end Inkworks autographs.

Let's just hope for their sake (and more than a few dealers holding multiple cases of this, as well as collectors who have bought them), that those 3 higher end autos on the sell sheet aren't literally the only ones they placed into the actual product. Razor was suspected of doing that prior to each of the last 2 releases, but proved their critics wrong both times once the breakdowns loaded with high end cards hit the forum boards.

There is so little margin for error these days with the increased transparency of what's actually in the card boxes thanks to the NSU board among others. Today, its pretty hard to pull a fast one today's Internet savvy "collectorate" and even if you can, there is zero chance of getting away with it without your reputation taking a tremendous hit.

While I personally wouldn't mind having a decent amount of the autos shown thus far, if this product consists of a similar lineup in all other cases, the set will be considered a massive failure, and Razor's place in the non-sports market will suffer measurably.

If Brian at Razor reading this, let me say, I've appreciated your candor with the posts you've made on this board, but I certainly hope you guys are still looking at the bigger picture.

With all of this in mind, I have ordered my own case and will also post a breakdown here. I won't be too disappointed whatever it holds, because as I said, 4 certified autographs, even "mediocre" ones and a sealed box of cards is, to me, worth the $40 gamble.

And really, if you buy cards for anything beyond the love of them, that's really all you're doing, gambling. How much does one usually get back from $40 worth of lottery scratchers, maybe $10 if you're lucky? At least here we can crack some packs, and most of these autographs will now where they belong, in the hands of collectors. I will remain grateful to Razor for their innovative efforts in making that happen, no matter what cards my own case may hold.

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Well, I agree that this issue of Razor Vault is not as exciting as the first, but I still think it is a great value for collectors, if nothing else to build up some extra autos or boxes for trade.
Got my box today (Thank you Ed) here's what I got:

Box - Andromeda Reign of the Commonwealth

Autos:
Chad Faust as Kyle Baldwin - 4400
Sharon Angela as Rosalie Aprile - Sopranos
Jesse Metcalfe as Van McNulty - Smallville
Michael Fairman as Adlai Niska - Firefly

The box I'll save for Open that box Day (I'll have 3 boxes to open!) The only thing that bothers me is 3 of the 6 autographs were by redemption, so I already know what I got.

Of the autos, I'll trade the Smallville auto, the 4400 is also up for trade. The Sopranos auto is actually the 3rd I've got of this character, one in a pack, one last weekend in a Razor autograph pack and this one - so it's up for trade as well. The Firefly auto is my favorite, I had wanted to pull a Firefly/Serenity auto, and while not a big star of the show, his auto will proudly go in my collection.

Based on the very small sample of breaks so far it doesn't look that great. The value is there when you average 4 autos and a sealed box, even if all are only mediocre. However that would not be the case if most of those autographs turn out to be duplicates of ones already gotten in Ink Archives and Ink Vault. There are obviously some new cards in the mix, but nothing impressive listed as yet.

Having bought so much of the previous Ink boxes I fear this is beginning to look like "deja vu" all over again.

Okay, so I just opened my two boxes, and I am not that impressed. I was hoping for at least one Charmed or Lost auto, but nada.

Box 1:
Veronica Mars Teddy Dunn as Duncan Kane
Firefly Christina Hendricks as Saffron
Smallville Lee Thompson Young as Victor Stone
Supernatural Amber Benson as Lenore

Sealed box: Scooby Doo Mysteries and Monsters

Box 2:
4400 Billy Campbell as Jordan Collier
4400 Laura Allen as Lily Moore
First Wave Roger Cross as Joshua
Family Guy Erik Estrada as The Friendly Office

Sealed Box: Jericho Season 1

I haven't opened the sealed boxes yet. I think I would have preferred the Scooby Doo movie over the cartoon, but I do enjoy Scooby Doo, that is at least good. I have never seen Jericho.

Anyhow, most of these are available for trade (I think I will keep the Family Guy auto). I collect Lost, Charmed & Harry Potter the most, but there are some Mummy Returns and Twilight autos I would enjoy as well. You can send me an email if interested, just please put you are from NSU in the subject line so I know to read the email. Thanks!

It was still fun (I always love a surprise), but still would have liked to see something I enjoyed a little more.

I received my 2 boxes yesterday. These boxes should have been called RA / INK archives as I received 5 RA autos. I'm only keeping the sketch so the rest are available.

RA
Elisabeth Gracen IA1 - Highlander
Jean Hale A4 - Wild Wild West
Henry Beckman A11 - Wild Wild West
Carman Argenziano A12 - Stargate SG1
Roger Cross A4 - First Wave ??? Never heard if it before

Inkworks
Corinne Bohrer A5 - Veronica Mars
Alona Tal A18 - Veronica Mars
Jennifer Rhodes A3 - Charmed Destiny

Boxes
Alias Season 4
Izabella Scorupco A37
Carl Lumbly Jacket PW6

Hellboy Animated
Jeff Zugale SK8

I opened six boxes today....why, I still don't know. This product is mych worse than the earlier release IMO.

I did not keep the boxes together with their autos but I received:

4400 Season 1 -auto redemption

Lost Season 2 -Josh Randall auto and redemption for Charlie Sand PW-9

Heroes 2 -Sylar Costume

Hellboy Animated -DeLiz Sketch


Journey to the Center of the Earth 3D -PW10 Brendan Fraser Cut Off T-Shirt

Fantastic Four Archives -Terrax the Tamer sketch by Felipe Massafera


and the autos, by box....

Wild Wild West A3 Lloyd Bochner
Stargate Atlantis Garsin Sanford
Smallville A23 Neil Flynn
X-Files S. 8 A13 James Pickens Jr.

4400 A-12 Joel Gretsch
Smallville A52 John Novak
Stargate Atlantis Alan Scarfe
Xena & Hercules Alison Wall

Farscape A43 Matra Dusseldorp
Veronica Mars A-3 Teddy Dunn
4400 A-14 Samantha Ferris
Complete Battlestar Galactica A21 Christine Belford

Lost A-15 L. Scott Caldwell
Charmed Conversations A-4 Jennifer Rhodes
The Scorpion King A4 Grant Heslov
Xena & Hercules Josephine Davison

Veronica Mars A-8 Anthony Anderson
Highlander A12 Michael Shanks
Farscape A18 Magda Szvbanski
Wild Wild West A9 Bob Herron

Highlander A20 Alan Scarfe
Looney Tunes BIA A6 Don Stanton
Xena A44 Jay Laga'aia
First Wave A3 Rob LaBelle

I will certainly NOT be tempted to open any more of this product.

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Awesome Terrax sketch igman
If you ever want to trade it PLMK