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The Orville Archives Autograph Card Edition (Rittenhouse)
October 24, 2020, 07:17 PM
Bob JohnsonThe Orville Archives Autograph Card Edition (Rittenhouse)
I just saw this over at Blowout Cards. Rittenhouse is releasing a limited edition (300 packs) 15-card The Orville autograph pack drawn from a list of 26 signers. The price? $299.99!
https://www.blowoutcards.com/b...ograph-card-edition/It comes out on November 18th, the same date The Orville Season Two Trading Cards set was scheduled for. I guess that's not happening?
October 24, 2020, 10:12 PM
RavenWhy is this not even on RA's website?
I'm guessing they gave up on a traditional product for this niche series and I don't necessarily disagree with them, but the lack of notice is surprising.
Every other pack out of the 300 has a MacFarlane autograph card. This will sell out I'm sure, but it will be worth it only for the 150 packs that have his card in my opinion.
October 26, 2020, 07:45 PM
Rajcardboard connection says 15 autos card pack. There are a possible 26 auto cards with Seth McFarlane in 1:2 packs.
November 18, 2020, 07:41 PM
webjonJust a heads up for anyone thinking about buying these -- some folks on Blowout have pointed out that the MacFarlane autographs look VERY consistent. . . perhaps a little too consistent. . .
November 18, 2020, 08:19 PM
BatmanClearly auto pen Rittenhouse has a big problem here
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November 18, 2020, 09:54 PM
RavenOh geez, never thought I'd hear this at RA, and with the single autograph card that makes this whole product attractive. If the scans are truly from 3 different cards, they look to be identical. That would be a big problem indeed!
And the questions have already begun to hit RA's website.
November 18, 2020, 10:30 PM
XA different seller on eBay also has an identical signature on their McFarlane card.
Can’t believe RA let autopens of a signer this big get through! Did they not even look at the cards? What a balls up.
November 19, 2020, 07:42 AM
wolfieI would imagine Rittenhouse have acted on this already, expect an official statement soon.
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November 19, 2020, 08:02 AM
ravenheartYeah, just compared several listings on eBay, and although the placement of the signature isn't always exactly the same, the signature itself definitely is.
November 19, 2020, 09:54 AM
Ravenquote:
Originally posted by ravenheart:
Yeah, just compared several listings on eBay, and although the placement of the signature isn't always exactly the same, the signature itself definitely is.
A few were up last night on eBay asking in the $400 - $600 range. A couple are still now and at least one sold for $250. What happens with the card value will depend very much on whether or not RA can provide authentic replacements for anyone holding autopenned signatures.
The back of the card would appear to put the responsibility of authenticity upon the signer, but of course that would never hold up in the court of public opinion. RA has little excuse for not seeing it before packing and they will have to do something to compensate first line buyers, if the situation is really as it looks now.
November 19, 2020, 10:20 AM
LoganI can't believe a manufacturer would not check signatures that come in for autopens. That's the first thing I would do and it would take about 10 seconds.
November 19, 2020, 10:31 AM
webjonquote:
Originally posted by Logan:
I can't believe a manufacturer would not check signatures that come in for autopens. That's the first thing I would do and it would take about 10 seconds.
In Rittenehouse's defense this isn't the first time Seth has signed, and his first set of signatures for them seemed perfectly fine. . . I can see how the second batch doesn't get as scrutinized.
I'm sure Rittenhouse is more bothered about this than anyone else. . .
November 19, 2020, 11:27 AM
RavenSo just saw this on the description page from a seller with one of the current eBay auctions running . . .
"The manufacturer has informed us to hold off on the Seth MacFarlene autograph card due to authenticity claims. This card will not ship until a solution is identified by the manufacturer."
So RA is at least acting fast. Even though it was a massive shrew up on their part, I'm sure they have too much to lose not to try to correct it.
And let's not forget that MacFarlene or MacFarlene's representatives also allowed an "authorized fake" to be submitted to fulfill a paid autograph contract. So how disrespectfully is that to RA and to all the card collectors and all his fans?
November 19, 2020, 12:54 PM
RavenApparently Steve Charendoff over at RA has just confirmed the autopenned MacFarlene signatures and said they are working on a solution and appreciate understanding and patience. So good for his honesty, its unfortunate for all concerned.
November 19, 2020, 03:55 PM
mykdudeSeth did this garbage on his last book too. Everyone sold as a signed copy was autopen.
Kind of glad I have never been much of a fan and have not had any desire to chase his signature.
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November 19, 2020, 10:44 PM
RavenWhile some eBay sellers have put the MacFarlene autopenned card on hold, others are urging buyers to get them while they can because they may be recalled. I love this hobby.
November 20, 2020, 03:17 PM
Tommy CThe Jason Alexander card A25 is 1 per 6 packs, only 50 made.
November 20, 2020, 04:08 PM
ifish73quote:
Originally posted by Tommy C:
The Jason Alexander card A25 is 1 per 6 packs, only 50 made.
Where are the odds listed?
November 20, 2020, 06:26 PM
Ravenquote:
Originally posted by ifish73:
Where are the odds listed?
Someone just posted that there were 50 cards made for Alexander on RA's message board. No idea where that data came from. You know the Orville Archives Autograph Card Edition is not even listed as a product on their website. Go explain that? And it was barely offered, I guess maybe because of the limited number of packs, but the whole product just seemed slapped together with radio silence. Not like RA's usual release routine.
November 21, 2020, 04:41 AM
Scifi CardsI was told it wasn't being offered on the website because it was likely sold out to wholesale, who they can allocate if necessary unlike a retail purchase.
I imagine the details will be posted eventually, probably not until the solution to the current situation is in place.
Ed