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Yeah, basically, kinda, really, maybe, lol.

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Originally posted by JimKyle:
For the collectors and fans that do care about the sketch artists and seeing their work, you can see us on the Scoundrel boards. At least there, our hard work is appreciated.

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Originally posted by H_Toser:
Also, I hope the artists here will remember that just because a few members have said that they do not wish to see non-related card works, it by no means means that everyone here (or NSU) feels this way.

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Ah yes, but if you "truly" were, you would have known to spell it Americanized.

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Originally posted by NIK:

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Ah yes, but if you "truly" were, you would have known to spell it Americanized.

LOL you got me there SciFimum.... er mom!

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Originally posted by JimKyle:
First of all....I've been reading these threads for the past hour or so. It seems to me X has a big problem with the artists on this board, and seems to have an even bigger mouth. There is absolutely no need to insult and offend people when you are trying to make a point, that is all you've done this whole thread. It's uncalled for.

I hope this is going to be the last time I have to repeat this: I have no problems with any artist or their work but rather the convoluting the board with art not related to actual Trading Card sets.

On to things worth talking about. Like I said before, I have never posted art on these boards with the intent to get "commissions". Honestly I don't need the boards for that and I do quite well enough through my website which I pay for. Also, I never post auction links on these boards for the same reason. I did post art for the sake of showing the fans new pieces that I'd been working on,and getting their input because I felt their opinion mattered. Also, because I thought the fans liked and appreciated that. I was wrong.

You're not wrong. Some people do, some people don't, such is life. No need to get irrate because people have different preferences/opinions.

There seems to be absolutely no problem with a collector showing off a pack pulled sketchcard that one of the "artists" worked on. Oh wait, it's probly gonna make you an extra $200 bucks when you sell iton Ebay, glad I and all the other artists that shouldn't be here could help you with that.

Excuse me? Of course there is no problem, it is a trading card, maybe you missed the fact this is a board for amongst other things TRADING CARDS. And don't you think most people looking to pull sketchs do so becuase they like the art and want to keep them in their collection not just to flog on ebay. And if they did put it on ebay and sold it for $1,000 what has that really got to do with you or me or anyone else? Sure you may have initially produced it, but that was your job, you got paid, the story ends there. Besides that is the name of the non-sport game buddy, do you really think it would go down well if Roger Moore signed up to NSU and stared posting "love me and include me because I signed cards that sell for vast sums of money on ebay"? Are we expected to get down on our hands and knees and praise you for creating this image? You've got some ego! And nobody said you shouldn't be on the boards! Arghhh!


Little did I know that there would be such a backlash by the collectors on this site. If I would have known this I would have never joined these boards let alone post my work. With that being said, I fully support with all my heart and soul Rich, Miller, Cat, Amy, Cynthia and the rest of the artists on this site that feel the same way I do. And for the artists that feel otherwise, you have every right to that, just don't go throwing the rest of us under the bus to score some brownie points. It's something I never did nor will I ever do.

For the collectors and fans that do care about the sketch artists and seeing their work, you can see us on the Scoundrel boards. At least there, our hard work is appreciated.

I would think EVERYONE here (by the way that includes me) would like to see artwork for upcoming sets posted on NSU whereas quite a number would like to see artwork not related to card sets as well. Who said the work is not appreciated? Come on 3 names please, if you can.

Feel free to kill my post if you want...BUT, I thought we had freedom of speech and the freedom to express our thoughts, let's hope that holds true here.

Best,

Jim Kyle

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Originally posted by JimKyle:
oooooooohhhh....I love a challange

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Originally posted by NIK:
Okay, the first idea, a thread for artists to post, no advertising and no responses can be posted. To me it will just look like a long column of pictures by various people. I can't see any fun in that. The other idea is better. One thing I'm not clear on... I originally thought that the artists paid advertising area would be boring as no one else would be able to post replies or keep a thread going inside it. Is this incorrect? Would an artists paid advertising area be the same format as the adverts already on Card Talk or would they be discussion threads where anyone can freely post replies? I prefer the latter because I enjoy the interaction and the banter with the other collectors. I also welcome criticism on my art as it is always useful to know if I haven't done a good enough job. Anyway I've chipped in my two cents worth (eeek, I've been Americanised!)

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Originally posted by X:
I hope this is going to be the last time I have to repeat this: I have no problems with any artist or their work but rather the convoluting the board with art not related to actual Trading Card sets.

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Originally posted by JimKyle:
oooooooohhhh....3 names......I love a challenge I never said to love anyone and include anyone....thats just ridiculous. No one ever said to get down on your knees and praise anyone, thats only you're sarcasm, once again shining through. When you decide to cut the childissh banter then we can talk.

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Originally posted by JimKyle:
Man, all thats left to do here is laugh, and move on.

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Originally posted by JimKyle:
With that being said, I fully support with all my heart and soul Rich, Miller, Cat, Amy, Cynthia and the rest of the artists on this site that feel the same way I do. And for the artists that feel otherwise, you have every right to that, just don't go throwing the rest of us under the bus to score some brownie points.

I'm sure this is directed towards me for one. I don't CARE what NSU thinks of me - I don't have articles written about me or get freebies from them. I guess I am one of the few who would pay for a no-holds-barred paid forum. I agree with some other artists here that we are self-promoting ourselves with every pic we post. I guess my Marketing and Advertising major/minor college degree and 18 years in retail make me ignorant, but that's what we are doing, myself included. The paid thread was a fix. There are so many people here who ARE passionate about sketch cards, it could mean good business for all the artists.

And unfortunately, at least one of your named artists above WAS part of the Artist Thread talks and I have the e-mails saved with their support of it - but I won't go there.

...I thought we had freedom of speech and the freedom to express our thoughts, let's hope that holds true here.

So don't bash me or other artists/collectors with an opposing view please. We can all stay polite about this - some are being too aggressive on BOTH sides of the coin IMO.

Best,

Jim Kyle

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Originally posted by Szym:
- One last question: except X, how many members did complain about artists posting (I don't see a lot of them here )?