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Summer 2015 Hits and Misses

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August 03, 2015, 03:39 PM
Tommy C
Summer 2015 Hits and Misses
Basing it on the amount of money made, versus the budgets


HITS

JURASSIC WORLD
AVENGERS
MAD MAX
MISSION IMPOSSIBLE
ANT MAN


MISSES-- Didn't make money, or just broke even

TOMORROW LAND
PIXELS
TERMINATOR (although is doing well overseas)
TED 2
August 03, 2015, 06:48 PM
Raven
A big loser that no one seemed to have even noticed was Jupiter Ascending. It cost a lot of money to make and did very badly. I didn't see it, so I can't say what happened, but it had a good cast.

Also Seventh Son did not do well. I think the studio had no confidence because it was basically dumped into theatres.
August 03, 2015, 07:00 PM
Chris Byrne
I did see Jupiter Ascending... terrible!

Seventh Son was also not that good.

I've seen every movie, but Ant Man..... all decent movies in my book Smile
August 03, 2015, 07:03 PM
Miss Lizzy
There was another Mission Impossible made?
I did not know this.

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August 03, 2015, 08:15 PM
Obi Wan Chrisobi
quote:
Originally posted by Raven:
A big loser that no one seemed to have even noticed was Jupiter Ascending. It cost a lot of money to make and did very badly. I didn't see it, so I can't say what happened, but it had a good cast.

Also Seventh Son did not do well. I think the studio had no confidence because it was basically dumped into theatres.


Those both came out back in Feb. or so, not in the summer which is what this thread is about. Wink

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August 03, 2015, 09:28 PM
Raven
quote:
Originally posted by Obi Wan Chrisobi:
quote:
Originally posted by Raven:
A big loser that no one seemed to have even noticed was Jupiter Ascending. It cost a lot of money to make and did very badly. I didn't see it, so I can't say what happened, but it had a good cast.

Also Seventh Son did not do well. I think the studio had no confidence because it was basically dumped into theatres.


Those both came out back in Feb. or so, not in the summer which is what this thread is about. Wink


Good point, I stand corrected. Wink

But since summer isn't over yet, should we even be talking about this yet? Big Grin
August 04, 2015, 11:45 AM
Tommy C
[quote]I did not know this.


Miss Lizzy, yes, Mission Impossible 5 just opened last weekend !
August 05, 2015, 12:54 PM
barobehere
I heard Trainwreak is doing well.
August 10, 2015, 09:42 AM
Tommy C
Well, Fantastic Four did poorly, only about 26M

And the remake of the Chevy Chase "Vacation" film, also didn't do well
August 12, 2015, 02:29 PM
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When I saw the ad for the new Vacation movie, I was not really impressed with it, just like the new Terminator movie! How many times can Terminator keep coming back?
August 17, 2015, 12:20 AM
Raven
Add The Man From U.N.C.L.E. to the list of big budget failures. It just came in 4th on the opening weekend.

A small independent movie that seems to be pulling in good box office as compared to it's cost is The Gift.
August 17, 2015, 02:54 AM
chesspieceface
This summer, we saw and liked:
Avengers Age of Ultron
Ant-Man
Trainwreck
Ted 2

saw and thought they were only so-so:
Jurassic World
Tomorrowland

I plan to see a lot of the others when they come out on DVD

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August 17, 2015, 02:53 PM
Tommy C
I know this is not sci-fi like the rest, but Straight Outta Compton is the surprise hit of the summer, grossing 56 M

More than twice what Fantastic Four made
August 17, 2015, 02:59 PM
Tommy C
Looks like Mission Impossible is doing well, almost 400 M worldwide

But the 1st, 2nd and 4th films did better

This one's doing better than the 3rd
August 18, 2015, 06:37 PM
Graham
Surely some of these movies would not be classed as "misses" until there has been a worldwide release, the worldwide gross has been published and they're no longer at the cinema. Some "hits" in the USA may not garner any interest anywhere else.
August 18, 2015, 10:05 PM
Raven
quote:
Originally posted by Graham:
Surely some of these movies would not be classed as "misses" until there has been a worldwide release, the worldwide gross has been published and they're no longer at the cinema. Some "hits" in the USA may not garner any interest anywhere else.


The industry trade papers make the determination as soon as the film debuts in the major markets, especially in the US. The studio accountants have probably charted the whole thing out long before and have an idea of what the box office range should be in the opening weekend. If it garners more or less than expected, it is immediately labeled as a hit or miss.

The thing is, many of these "miss" movies will wind up making millions and millions of dollars before it's over, but the cost of production may not be recovered because they were so very expensive to make. That's why a cheap movie like The Gift can be called a hit even though it doesn't pull in anywhere near the money of The Fantastic Four, which has bombed by industry standards.

Your point about foreign markets is very valid. Some US movies just don't relate to UK audiences and some UK hits don't do well with American audiences either. But again the bean counters kind of factor these things in when predicting the numbers. Block busters like Mission Impossible and Jurassic World will do well all over.

None of which means anything about the film itself of course. I think Jurassic World should be the top grosser this year and I saw it and would not recommend it for anything but the air conditioning. Wink
August 19, 2015, 12:02 PM
chesspieceface
quote:
Originally posted by Tommy C:
I know this is not sci-fi like the rest, but Straight Outta Compton is the surprise hit of the summer, grossing 56 M

More than twice what Fantastic Four made


Maybe they should reboot the "Fantastic Four" starring the five main actors from "Straight Outta Compton". (One of them would play Dr. Doom).

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August 19, 2015, 12:49 PM
David R
Also, it's very hard to label anything a hit or a miss

Mission Impossible has made 140 M in the US so far. That's good, but not hugely impressive. However, it's made 400 M worldwide. I think the last one made 700 M

Tomorrowland made about 200 M, but it cost 190 M to make, supposedly