These small fringe groups and pseudo religions are more common than you'd think in Hollywood circles. It goes all the way back to Charles Manson and probably before him. It will be interesting to see how much of this sticks when people started as willing "followers".
Posts: 10529 | Location: New York | Registered: November 20, 2007
Originally posted by Raven: These small fringe groups and pseudo religions are more common than you'd think in Hollywood circles. It goes all the way back to Charles Manson and probably before him.
It goes back to Ron Hubbard and Dianetics in the 1940s and probably before him.
Posts: 2306 | Location: Huntsville, AL United States | Registered: November 30, 2002
Sick & disturbing behavior.... Maybe they are drug and sex addicts - who knows? Now I'm glad that I don't have her Smallville auto card. If I did own it, I'd sell it quick so it didn't stink up my collection.
Posts: 2237 | Location: DFW | Registered: January 19, 2002
Sadly there's fine line between free will and brain washing ie an exhausted person will make bad decisions and think they've made them of their own free will.
I think she may have started out as one of the innocents but where she stands now in legal terms is yet to be determined.
This is a very disturbing and tragic case for those innocents involved. I hope justice prevails and the truth comes out.
Posts: 937 | Location: UK | Registered: December 21, 2005
She will become a witness against the cult's leader and that heiress who financed him. She'll probably get jail time, but I would be surprised if her deal won't get her out in 5 years or less. No other reason to plead guilty.
Posts: 10529 | Location: New York | Registered: November 20, 2007
Seems the Mack "brand" has taken a pretty big hit:
____________________ Everywhere around this burg they're running out of verbs, adverbs, and adjectives. Everywhere around this town, they're running out of nouns.
Posts: 3377 | Location: California | Registered: December 23, 2007
When one reads all the evidence on this, Mack deserves jail time but I wonder if she will get any if the attorneys get her to roll on Raniere and make her a nice deal. Guess we will find out in a few months.
Originally posted by barobehere: When one reads all the evidence on this, Mack deserves jail time but I wonder if she will get any if the attorneys get her to roll on Raniere and make her a nice deal. Guess we will find out in a few months.
She pleaded guilty, that's usually means guilty and the sentence will be a lesser one than pleading not guilty.
Posts: 1212 | Location: u.k. | Registered: February 02, 2010
So now the Seagram's liquor heiress who bankrolled this whole mess, Clare Bronfman, has also pleaded guilty. She could get as much as 25 years, or as little as 21 months.
Look for a 2 - 3 year plea deal. At the end of the day the only one who is going away for a long time will be the cult leader Keith Raniere. All the rest will testify against him and get reduced sentences. Prosecution will be satisfied with that because all of these cult members started as consenting adults and they need witnesses at the top just to convict him.
Posts: 10529 | Location: New York | Registered: November 20, 2007
They'll send her to a minimum security place, take off months for time served, good behavior and anything else they can think of. She made that deal to testify, so she'll probably be out on parole in 15 months or so and writing a book.
Frankly its hard to care about this one when everyone was consenting until they all realized they were victims. I mean calling this wacky bunch a cult is almost giving them too much credit.
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