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Originally posted by Raven:
Just a couple of exceptions that worked out for Warner Brothers on the odd movie. Like Gadot being so good in "Wonder Woman" and even "Justice League", but sinking under the weight of "WW 1984". Which Gadot shows up for the next one?

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Originally posted by mykdude:

Gal is a great Wonder Woman as long as she is directed and written well.

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Originally posted by Raven:
It's harder to name the exceptions, than think of once admired male actors who are looking to draw a paycheck from anything in later years. It's usually the guys, only because the ladies have shorter movie careers in general and hopefully have a little more sense.

Al Pacino, Bruce Willis, Nicholas Cage, Val Kilmer, Mickey Rourke, Eric Roberts, Christian Slater, to name a few. Even Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sly Stallone and Johnny Depp now appear in very unreliable work.

Straight to video has many once notable stars that kind of imploded and ran out of money due to excessive behavior or bad health. Some of them made tons of cash in their prime years, but they acquired high maintenance lifestyles along with wives, friends, ex-wives and children to support.

Jack Nicholson didn't quite sell out but is basically retired and unseen these days. Warren Beatty isn't around much either. International actors like Anthony Hopkins have aged and still do quality work, but they may not have had the Hollywood life. RDJ was headed that way until he reformed. Brad Pitt is still going strong, but he's not that old. See what him and DiCaprio are doing in another fifteen or twenty years. They are following in De Niro's footsteps. No matter how much money anybody makes, they can always manage to run through it all if they try hard.

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Originally posted by Raven:
And Jason Momoa is said to be switching from Aquaman to Lobo, which seems wasteful.

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Originally posted by Tommy C:
Jack Nicholson is 85 now, so how much time does he have left ? I don't think he's done a movie since "The Departed", and that was back in 2006, I believe

Warren Beatty has done 1 film over the past 20 years. He is 85 also. He did that film "Rules Don't Apply" which had a very limited release, and bombed.

I was surprised how Stallone has done so many straight to video/VOD action films in recent years, none of which anyone has heard of. In fact, he's done some low budget stuff, where the film was made for a mere 5 M. I see that he's not in Creed 3 coming next year.

Brad Pitt is now 58, so he's not a spring chicken anymore.

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Originally posted by mykdude:

Gal is a great Wonder Woman as long as she is directed and written well.

We may not know for a while. A report just came out that Wonder Woman 3 has been cancelled, or at least the current project is shut down.

And Jason Momoa is said to be switching from Aquaman to Lobo, which seems wasteful. He was a pretty good Aquaman and they can't find any other actor to play Lobo? Granted Aquaman never got a whole lot of respect, but is Lobo a step up? Is anyone clamoring for another bounty hunter anti-hero? I agree, they have no direction, which makes putting an interlocking universe together hard.

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Originally posted by Kevin F:
I just think it is a shame that all of the media interviews for Avatar 2 so far have been with the voice actors comparing boasts about how long they could hold their breath underwater instead of with the real stars of the film. By which I mean the incredibly talented CG SFX artists and animators who actually created what everyone gets to see on the screen

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Originally posted by Raven:

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Originally posted by Kevin F:
I just think it is a shame that all of the media interviews for Avatar 2 so far have been with the voice actors comparing boasts about how long they could hold their breath underwater instead of with the real stars of the film. By which I mean the incredibly talented CG SFX artists and animators who actually created what everyone gets to see on the screen

That's the big change in films that has been coming so slowly for so long that we don't even see it anymore. We don't really need actors to see the characters, we can just draw them up. So now it's the voices that are the stars.

Voice actors used to be their own brand of employment until known actors started getting hired to give the movie more star value. That's going back many years probably well before "Toy Story" even. "Roger Rabbit" was a ground breaker in melding live action and animation, but it wasn't the first time either. Gene Kelly danced with a cartoon mouse in the 1950's, I think. The blending is not new, it just keeps getting better looking.

Anyway now just about every major award-winning actor has moonlighted in some voice role and it's not going to stop. They get pushed out at the premieres as the stars of the production, but it is the CG SFX artists and animators that put the project together. Only they probably don't look so good on the red carpet, and they don't have a piece of the back end. So we get all these big actors talking about how inspiring it was to separately go to the studio and read their lines into a microphone.

That's bad, but it's worse for all those good voice actors who have gotten shoved out of work in the process.

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Originally posted by Tommy C:
DC announced that there will NOT be a Black Adam 2.

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Now it was announced on Instagram that Henry Cavill will NOT be coming back as Superman. They are looking for a replacement.

A week ago, Henry said that he WAS coming back.er hard.