Well you knew it was going to happen at a convention sooner or later.

Gary Busey has been accused of inappropriate behavior by three women at the Monster-Mania Convention on August 13th. It happened during his photoshoots and Monster-Mania threw him out as soon as they got the complaints. Although Busey is denying that anything happened, the general gist of it seems to be that he got too friendly and too handsy with some ladies who were there to meet him as a guest signer.

As the man is 78 years old, you have to admire his confidence, if little else.

Whether he gets charged with actually committing sex offenses, or sued, or both, remains to be seen. But it is sure to have some sort of ripple effect at other shows and conventions where fans and celebrities mingle for autographs and pictures. No touching policy perhaps.

To be fair I have seen photo sessions where fans were happy to be draped all over their favorite celebrity, so it can cut both ways. Maybe not so much for a Gary Busey type though.

Read that article, really didn't give enough information to make an informed opinion. I can imagine Busey being a bit of a creep but there are also agitator activist types trying to drum up support for cause X. Celebrities are good targets.

As you said I have been to many photo ops and the celebrity either has to have set rules or they have a few seconds to gauge each fan walking in. The professional photo ops are a bit of a disappointment anyway I think hammering it with more rules might kill the concept. Photos at the celebrity table are much more fun and personal.

Anything of sexual contact nature that is obvious would certainly be seen by others and most likely photographed. I am sure all of his photos that day will be investigated.

More info on this

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...-AA10Y29q?li=BBnbfcL

He was also seen later on the beach in CA doing inappropriate things, according to the article

This show is local to me, like 10 minutes away, so I've been there many times. I did not attend this show but I kept up on social media throughout the weekend. The first I heard was Saturday afternoon he was removed from the show, as in he had a line, got up and was escorted out. Rumors began flying about inappropriate behavior. Then on Sunday he was back at his table all day as if nothing happened.

I really have no idea what to make of it. Just seems really weird he'd be removed then allowed back, only to have reports hit main news a few days later.

I will always associate him with 1978's "The Buddy Holly Story." He looked much different, physically back then, aside from the teeth.

But by the mid-80s and 1990s, he went from dramatic actor to being known for action films and playing crazies

That was a great movie. I saw in a theater when it was new and just saw part of it a few weeks ago.

He had a funny cameo on an episode of the first season of "Entourage" in which he played off his "crazy" image. People forget he survived a traumatic brain injury from a motorcycle accident years before. He appeared in the "Entourage" movie released in 2015 but he had no memory of being on the TV show. I'm not excusing him but he might still need some help.

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Originally posted by Tommy C:
I will always associate him with 1978's "The Buddy Holly Story." He looked much different, physically back then, aside from the teeth.

But by the mid-80s and 1990s, he went from dramatic actor to being known for action films and playing crazies

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Originally posted by Ted Dastick Jr.:
I really have no idea what to make of it. Just seems really weird he'd be removed then allowed back, only to have reports hit main news a few days later.

Can't find any of the articles discussing Sunday. The only thing I can think of is the con looked at everything a didn't really see anything, they may have allowed him back with stipulations. They rightfully instructed the women to talk to the police and the media picked it up when actual charges were involved. A few more articles are describing what happened and if it's true there is no way there aren't 3rd party witnesses.

They may have tried to ask him to leave, but his contract didn't allow that.

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Originally posted by Bill Mullins:
They may have tried to ask him to leave, but his contract didn't allow that.

That's a lesson for the promoter then. If a guest is getting into trouble there should be some provision to allow the promoter to act accordingly.

It's hard to write provisions that are actually practical and implementable. "If some random convention attendee makes a claim that the star groped her, the star has to leave" isn't a clause that actually works in the real world.

Right, I would think contract or not if it was blatant behavior then the promoter could stand firm. All of the charges are 4th degree which could boil down to an accusation battle with no real evidence.

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Originally posted by mykdude:
All of the charges are 4th degree which could boil down to an accusation battle with no real evidence.

That's an issue with many of these cases. Unless there is hard evidence, like actual witnesses, a lot of the time it's just he said, she said, and pick who you believe. That's why past behavior and patterns are often used to support victims when nobody knows for sure. If one person says it, maybe it's not true. If three people say it, and they are not all together, then there is a better chance that a jury will believe it.

Sometimes older people also don't realize that they can't get away with some things they have grown accustomed to doing in the past without offending anybody.

Either way Busey's brand has probably been hurt enough to cause other promoters to shy away from booking him. He is not a big enough draw for them to risk any additional liability or bad publicity. Not saying it's fair, or that it isn't all a tempest in a teapot. Just that no one should leave themselves open to these sorts of public accusations when it's so easy to avoid.

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Originally posted by Bill Mullins:
It's hard to write provisions that are actually practical and implementable. "If some random convention attendee makes a claim that the star groped her, the star has to leave" isn't a clause that actually works in the real world.

Well of course it wouldn't be worded like that! I don't know what the actual legalese would be, but it could be worded that gives the promoter the ability to remove a guest at their discretion. At that point it falls on the promoter, whether the accusations are real or not, to decide whether they want to keep a guest there with controversy stirring.

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Originally posted by Ted Dastick Jr.:

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Originally posted by Bill Mullins:
It's hard to write provisions that are actually practical and implementable. "If some random convention attendee makes a claim that the star groped her, the star has to leave" isn't a clause that actually works in the real world.

Well of course it wouldn't be worded like that! I don't know what the actual legalese would be, but it could be worded that gives the promoter the ability to remove a guest at their discretion. At that point it falls on the promoter, whether the accusations are real or not, to decide whether they want to keep a guest there with controversy stirring.

It's all about money. I'm sure if the promoter decided the guest had to leave that the guest would be entitled to his guaranteed fee. Making the fee defaulted would likely create a contract that few would sign.

So there's no easy way to approach this kind of thing, other than not inviting guests known for this type of behavior.

Ed

Another problem at a NJ fan expo ?

https://www.nj.com/morris/2022...-organizers-say.html

Are my reading skills in the dirt or is this the future of vague news reporting?

Yeah, it was a report of a commotion with someone getting hurt and then a police presence and then no details. Is that even a story? Something happened, but uh, we have no idea what it was.

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Originally posted by mykdude:
Are my reading skills in the dirt or is this the future of vague news reporting?

Here is what happened

https://parsippanyfocus.com/20...ing-chiller-theatre/

Decided to look for any final outcome on the Busey story.

Nothing but pages of the initial sensational breaking news story.

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Originally posted by mykdude:
Decided to look for any final outcome on the Busey story.

Nothing but pages of the initial sensational breaking news story.

That's how these things work...

Time and everyone forgets. Confidential settlements and nobody talks.

You never find out the real story.

Ed