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Downton Abbey

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January 29, 2014, 12:04 PM
John Tirohn
Downton Abbey
Looking really nice though I don't like the randomness of chase cards. Does anyone know if there will be at least 1 premium card per box?
January 29, 2014, 12:14 PM
Logan
quote:
Originally posted by John Tirohn:
Looking really nice though I don't like the randomness of chase cards. Does anyone know if there will be at least 1 premium card per box?


With Cryptozoic autographs are almost always 1 per box, wardrobe cards are at least 1 per box, and sketches are usually 1 per case. I haven't heard any specific ratios for the Downton set yet though.
February 07, 2014, 07:06 PM
Logan
New info has been released by Cryptozoic. Sketches are 1:442 packs and there will be mini-sketches as well as standard size. I take it from the story that the autograph list is pretty much complete. You can read it here:

http://www.cryptozoic.com/blogs/trading-card-updates
February 07, 2014, 09:58 PM
Raven
If it takes 442 packs to pull, why exactly would anyone want a mini sketch over a standard size sketch? Wink
February 07, 2014, 10:13 PM
wonged
quote:
Originally posted by Raven:
If it takes 442 packs to pull, why exactly would anyone want a mini sketch over a standard size sketch? Wink

So 1 sketch per 18 boxes. But is a mini-sketch considered a sketch card ? Or is the mini-sketch cards at a different pull rate ?

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February 07, 2014, 11:44 PM
chesspieceface
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Originally posted by Raven:
If it takes 442 packs to pull, why exactly would anyone want a mini sketch over a standard size sketch? Wink


Well, you don't really have a chance to pull one. You have more of a "mini-chance".

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February 11, 2014, 11:01 AM
Jamster62
It's really sad that they decided to make the sketch cards such tough pulls. As Ed queried, it would be really nice if the mini-sketch cards had a better pull rate. It would be really lame to pull a mini-sketch card after going through 1.535 cases of product.
February 11, 2014, 02:44 PM
chris meeks
quote:
Originally posted by Jamster62:
It's really sad that they decided to make the sketch cards such tough pulls. As Ed queried, it would be really nice if the mini-sketch cards had a better pull rate. It would be really lame to pull a mini-sketch card after going through 1.535 cases of product.


I think the main reason for the scarcity is that fewer artists signed up for set. Even fewer for the smaller size.
February 11, 2014, 03:06 PM
Chuck Bartowski
quote:
Originally posted by chris meeks:
quote:
Originally posted by Jamster62:
It's really sad that they decided to make the sketch cards such tough pulls. As Ed queried, it would be really nice if the mini-sketch cards had a better pull rate. It would be really lame to pull a mini-sketch card after going through 1.535 cases of product.




I believe the ratio on this product is better than it was on Revenge...I think it was 1:3 cases on Revenge.

The sketch cards are really an extra hit...this product will still have autos and wardrobe cards.

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February 11, 2014, 05:24 PM
DavidDeb
yeah indeed, the smaller size is well, quite smallSmile, but very cool! so of course most are more comfortable with the regular size.
I don't think any company really 'decide' a sketch card ratio. They set a production run and go with the sketches they have based on:
-artists that signed on the set, that is influenced by the popularity of a show or film
-artists that are 'approved' for the set (in some case they pre-approve some artists based on the samples they see
-number of sketches that remain after the licensor give the final approval

so depending of the situations, the final number can be quite small vs the initial forecast, but in most case, they can be seen as 'a bonus hit' for Cryptozoic's set and Game of Thrones for instance

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February 11, 2014, 05:26 PM
barobehere
I am just hoping my wife finds one in one of her 2 boxes. Along with all the autos,costumes, base set and inserts in those 2 boxes!
February 11, 2014, 11:13 PM
Jamster62
@DavidDeb

Awesome artwork, Dave! I hope that I pull one of your sketches!
February 12, 2014, 01:39 PM
DavidDeb
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Originally posted by Jamster62:
@DavidDeb

Awesome artwork, Dave! I hope that I pull one of your sketches!


thanks, best wishes

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February 13, 2014, 01:06 AM
Scifi Cards
Cryptozoic posted about base sets in Revenge, but it seems it will apply to Downton Abbey as well so it's worth the read:

quote:
As many of you have noticed, the base set for the Revenge cards is quite large. This means that it isn’t likely to open a complete base set of the cards from one box. Here is a quick breakdown of why that happens:

24 packs @ 5 cards = 120 cards per box

Box Content

1 Wardrobe card (one box out of case may have 2 Wardrobe cards), which displaces 4 Base cards = 116 Base cards per box
2 Behind the Scenes cards = 114 Base cards per box
2 Flashback cards = 112 Base cards per box
1 Autograph card (one box out of the case may have 2 Autograph cards) = 111 Base cards per box

Since the cards are somewhat randomly inserted, our printers require a 10% margin of error in order to guarantee a full base set. There are 108 cards in the Base set, which is a margin of error of only 2.7%, so we are not able to guarantee a Base set from one box. Collectors should expect 11 complete Base card sets from a case. While there should be plenty of Base sets to meet demand for Revenge, collectors should keep this situation in mind for Downton Abbey Series 1 & 2 Trading Cards, as we will run into similar issues since the base set is also very large (126 Base cards).


Seems to me the simple solution is to go to 6 cards per pack. Roll Eyes Because at $84.00 SRP, you SHOULD get a base set out of it IMHO.

Ed

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February 13, 2014, 10:32 AM
wonged
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While there should be plenty of Base sets to meet demand for Revenge, collectors should keep this situation in mind for Downton Abbey Series 1 & 2 Trading Cards, as we will run into similar issues since the base set is also very large (126 Base cards).

Now I am thoroughly confused !!
In the quote above, where does the 126 base cards come from ? I thought both Revenge and Downton Abbey are 108 base card sets ?

Also, no one has any answer per my prior posts ? Are mini-sketches considered regular sketches @ the insertion rate of 1:442 packs (1:18.4 boxes), or are they "in addition" to the regular sketches ?

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February 13, 2014, 02:57 PM
DavidDeb
Also, no one has any answer per my prior posts ? Are mini-sketches considered regular sketches @ the insertion rate of 1:442 packs (1:18.4 boxes), or are they "in addition" to the regular sketches ?[/QUOTE]

as a regular sketch, you get either a regular or mini as I understand it with mini being more scarce since less been done

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February 13, 2014, 03:21 PM
Jamster62
quote:
Originally posted by wonged:
quote:
While there should be plenty of Base sets to meet demand for Revenge, collectors should keep this situation in mind for Downton Abbey Series 1 & 2 Trading Cards, as we will run into similar issues since the base set is also very large (126 Base cards).

Now I am thoroughly confused !!
In the quote above, where does the 126 base cards come from ? I thought both Revenge and Downton Abbey are 108 base card sets ?


Yes, I know what you mean. On the Downton Abbey Main Page, it states that the base set is 108 cards. However, on the "New Archer Release Date and Other Updates" post from Feb 10, 2014, it states: "...collectors should keep this situation in mind for Downton Abbey Series 1 & 2 Trading Cards, as we will run into similar issues since the base set is also very large (126 Base cards)."
February 13, 2014, 04:56 PM
wonged
quote:
Originally posted by DavidDeb:
Also, no one has any answer per my prior posts ? Are mini-sketches considered regular sketches @ the insertion rate of 1:442 packs (1:18.4 boxes), or are they "in addition" to the regular sketches ?

as a regular sketch, you get either a regular or mini as I understand it with mini being more scarce since less been done

Dave, thanks for your reply ... so not as to beat a dead horse ...
you are saying that the odds of pulling EITHER a regular-size sketch or a mini-sketch are the stated 1:442 packs ?

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February 13, 2014, 05:43 PM
barobehere
That is what it looks like, yes. A Sketch card (regular or Mini) will hit 1:442 packs. Hopefully, my wife will find one in her 48 packs!
February 13, 2014, 06:57 PM
Raven
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Originally posted by Scifi Cards:

Seems to me the simple solution is to go to 6 cards per pack. Roll Eyes Because at $84.00 SRP, you SHOULD get a base set out of it IMHO.

Ed


Yep, I agree. We all didn't complain too much when boxes shrunk from 36 to 24 packs, at least not that I remember, and that was quite awhile ago. Then the number of boxes per case was reduced. Then the number of cards per pack started going down. By and large box prices have stayed in the same range, but by any measure the contents have decreased significantly.