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Silver Card Talk Member |
How come there's a Raven and a Ravenheart, is there some kind of evolution thing going on here ? | |||
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They look much better in hand. Hard to explain why, but they are really nice when you have them up close. Gold embossing and excellent card stock definitely helps. | |||
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Diamond Card Talk Member |
I'd say there is one of me in every country, but ravenheart might think it's the other way round. | |||
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Beckett Media does box busters on Facebook. Here is a link to them opening a box of Upper Deck James Bond. Looks like a nice set https://www.facebook.com/becke...335518254033931/?t=4 | |||
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Platinum Card Talk Member |
Ahh got it. Somehow I got the impression that you had linked epacks and skip boxes. I guess I can only assume that listed autograph insert rates are from a combination of both physical and epacks. Thanks! ____________________ Just because it's rare doesn't mean it's valuable. | |||
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Titanium Card Talk Member |
Thanks for that. ____________________ Come, it is time for you to keep your appointment with The Wicker Man. | |||
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Gold Card Talk Member |
Looks like Christoph Waltz is returning as Blofeld in Bond 25, which is filming now. See below. https://www.theguardian.com/fi...ld-for-james-bond-25 | |||
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Platinum Card Talk Member |
Fortunately it is a small role. Really did not care for him in the last Bond. Have to admit in not paying too much attention to the pre-production chatter. Remi Malek would be a nice future sig to look forward to. ____________________ Just because it's rare doesn't mean it's valuable. | |||
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Diamond Card Talk Member |
Does anyone know how well these UD Bond cards sold? Did they have any positive or negative effect on the RA autograph cards? Is it on hold until ePack release? We always seem to have such great speculation about new releases right up until the time they hit the market. Then we get maybe a couple of box breaks and silence afterwards. There are many Bond card collectors out there, especially in the UK. Any opinions at this stage? | |||
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Silver Card Talk Member |
The game cards are having a sneak preview at Gen Con in Indiana this weekend. | |||
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Titanium Card Talk Member |
I have collected every Bond set that has come out and i do not have one card from this set, time will tell if i change my mind. ____________________ Come, it is time for you to keep your appointment with The Wicker Man. | |||
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Platinum Card Talk Member |
2 of the three distributors I watch still have some product left and UD is still selling on their site. Only had interest in the Waltz and so far the numbers on ebay have been pretty low with fairly consistent selling prices. I have not seen the one supposedly numbered to 25 yet. It could be that UD is holding something back or with this being a popular first time sig it is going straight into collections instead of being sold. So far these cards seem to be blending in with the RA sale prices with no major differences. Given that this product still has not had time to completely settle, I think that favors RA In my opinion the RA stuff is a nicer with much more attention to signature space. ____________________ Just because it's rare doesn't mean it's valuable. | |||
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Diamond Card Talk Member |
ePacks will follow, so it stands to reason that enough Waltz autos, along with all others, are being held back to cover the stated ratios. | |||
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Gold Card Talk Member |
I’m in exactly the same boat. I think there is A LOT to like with this UD release but I just don’t have the urgency to get anything from it. RA already covered near enough everything and did it to a high standard. I want a Waltz ‘base’ auto but if the UD Alien releases have taught me anything I’ll wait for ePack to flood the market and bring the prices down on everything. | |||
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Silver Card Talk Member |
Another factor is availability. I am not 100% sure, but I do not think these new cards are officially distributed here in the UK in the first place, meaning anyone wanting to collect more than a base set will likely have to import from the USA (with all the postage/tax/handling fees). | |||
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Platinum Card Talk Member |
Well, with Waltz rolling out at 1:1245 packs with 4 other class "C" signatures I believe my math puts that at 1 per 28.8 cases. Add that this is a first autograph card for him and probably the most desired card from the set, I'm not sure how much of a drop you are going to see. ____________________ Just because it's rare doesn't mean it's valuable. | |||
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Titanium Card Talk Member |
e-pack is the big problem here, you just don't know where you are with numbers produced. ____________________ Come, it is time for you to keep your appointment with The Wicker Man. | |||
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Platinum Card Talk Member |
Not sure how that is different from any other release. . . either you can calculate the production based on the card odds or you can't -- ePack doesn't change that. | |||
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Diamond Card Talk Member |
As soon as ePacks come out the available supply of the UD cards goes up. A hit like the Waltz autograph card used to establish a reasonably solid price six months after release, as an estimate and not talking about varying factors that might significantly impact the price later on. Now if it is from UD, both sellers and buyers should know that there will be another three month delay before the 2nd wave is available for release to both ePack collectors and a lot of eager card flippers. So that average price is not firmly established until another six months passes because, even though the ratios may be published, it takes that long for the majority of cards that will be up for individual sale to hit the market and re-set the record. If you buy a big card ahead of the ePacks because its rare, you are taking the chance that when the 2nd wave hits and the supply has increased, the demand will still hold the price at previous highs. That is the number you don't know about, the dollar number. The fair trading price of what you are buying when the market has not settled because the final supply dump hasn't processed through yet. | |||
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Platinum Card Talk Member |
Ok my math was way off!! C autographs are inserted 1:245 packs....somehow I tossed an extra one in there. Which puts the base Waltz at around 1 in 5.6 cases. So from a production side it seems like e-packs would be problematic. I mean, these are digital cards that equal produced physical cards. Right? Typically I tend to think of them in terms of autograph or material cards but what about the rest of them? Does UD have to hang on to a physical supply forever? What if some off card becomes valuable 10 years from now and a demand for redemption sky rockets? ____________________ Just because it's rare doesn't mean it's valuable. | |||
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