I very much doubt there will be many more Christopher Lee cards hanging in the wings at RA HQ for future release. That said, I would hope they would have had the good sense to have made a dual auto card of Christopher Lee and Roger Moore. Now THAT would be a card to have and I really hope they did make one.

I'm shocked that Lee has passed away, he seemed like one of those guys who would just go on forever. Apparently he passed on Sunday but the news only broke today.

I sold my Bond 40th Anniversary card of his just last week in anticipation of replacing it with the full-bleed version from this new set. No doubt I sold mine far cheaper than what the vultures will try and hawk their Lee cards for now (already seen loads of LOTR cards jacked up). Not that I lament selling it when I did because I did it for the right reasons, but I reckon the new card will be pitched higher than it would have been if he was still with us. Genuine fans such as myself are going to get hosed. Still, I am so glad that RA got this great legend to sign once more. I doubt I am alone in thinking it wasn't going to happen and coincidentally releasing this card so soon to his death is a sad, but nice tribute to the man.

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Originally posted by Juelle Lou:
Does anyone have an idea as to how hard it is going to be to put together these sets?
- GoldenEye 100 card throwback set
- GoldenEye 100 card gold parallel set
How costly do people think they will be as I want to chase these down.
Should I go with trying to buy them separately or as sets?

In both cases, I would say go after either as complete sets. To buy singles, shipping will be the real killer and will quickly add up. It hurts to buy expensive sets in one go but FAR more cost effective in the long run.

I contemplated going after the gold set of GoldenEye, as it is my favourite Bond film, as I know it is yours, but I feel something of a sucker paying £400 odd quid for a bit of gold foil and I can't justify it. Not when that money could go to loads of other cool cards.

So what I will be doing with GoldenEye is the same as what I done for all the other Bond sets of late: get the 'ordinary' version of the throwback set (bought as a set for the cheapest price I can find) and buy just one gold parallel card featuring my favourite scene from the film.

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Originally posted by Raven:

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Originally posted by Kryten67:
this is RA, they tend to get stuff signed well in advance, There are Nimoy's & Lee's that are signed for a Future release.....

10,000,000,000,000,000 % Sure

With Nimoy I would say that you are probably right, because Star Trek had several different products that could have him in it and he was signing autographs almost to the end.

With Lee, I would not think so and unless you know what RA is holding, I don't know why you would be so sure.

This coming release has his full bleed card, his 40th style is already out. That's it for RA format wise, unless an incentive style is kicking around somewhere. Lee has not been in the best of health, he was old, and he dropped out of a couple projects that wanted to get him in on the signature cards. Who knows how many of these cards he managed to sign.

So I'm not saying that it's not possible that RA has any more in the vault, anything is possible, but I wouldn't put any of my money on it.

ONE FROM THE VAULT.....



The Copyright Date on this is 2013 & It's still not Released!

The have released Lee before.....




the usually have several Styles signed at Once...... Lee is a Big Enough name that the will have had him sign a few more Styles...

Well there are only the two styles, full bleed and 40th Anniversary, WOB doesn't work, and Lee will have done both now. Of course RA has had signers that did more multiples in the same style, so I'm not ruling it out, but I like X's idea better. A dual signature with Moore would be awesome, if they thought to do it.

While we are talking about RA stocking up on signatures, just consider what may be going on with sticker autographs. RA has on-card autographs and they sure do get them signed in advance and wait as long as they want to release them, but at least they had to produce the card.

With stickers, the card and by extension the whole product can be in development for years and years. Just recently Russell Johnson autographs were mailed out from delayed redemptions and Johnson died in January 2014. I think that was from a Topps product, can't find the thread now that I am looking for it. But I could see where it would be quite easy to dribble out autograph cards of deceased celebrities and collectors would have no way of knowing how many signed stickers remain to be assigned cards.

not a Big fan of Stickers....could have been Topps 75th Anniversary......

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Originally posted by Kryten67:
not a Big fan of Stickers....could have been Topps 75th Anniversary......

Yeah thanks, that's the thread I read it in, Topps 75th Anniversary redemptions.

So signed stickers saved on celebrities can turn up anywhere, anytime, on cards that are not yet made, for sets that have not even been thought of yet. And it is a certainty that if that waiting period is long enough, and if that stock pile is big enough, at least some of those people will pass away with unreleased autograph stickers ready to go whenever the manufacturer decides to use them.

Betting on a JAMES BOND HEROES & VILLAINS STYLE SET........

Bring on the John Cleese Auto.......

Sooner or Latter we will see Autos from BOND Opening Credit Girls.......



The Yvonne Craig Card is a Silver Signature Card from 2013....

They may have a Few Bond Villains Silver Signature Cards tucked away......

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Originally posted by X:
In both cases, I would say go after either as complete sets. To buy singles, shipping will be the real killer and will quickly add up. It hurts to buy expensive sets in one go but FAR more cost effective in the long run.

I contemplated going after the gold set of GoldenEye, as it is my favourite Bond film, as I know it is yours, but I feel something of a sucker paying £400 odd quid for a bit of gold foil and I can't justify it. Not when that money could go to loads of other cool cards.

So what I will be doing with GoldenEye is the same as what I done for all the other Bond sets of late: get the 'ordinary' version of the throwback set (bought as a set for the cheapest price I can find) and buy just one gold parallel card featuring my favourite scene from the film.

Okay so knowing that it is just a variant with gold foil, I think I'll just stick to the common 100 card throwback set and finding one as a whole rather than singles.
But I really love your idea on picking up just one of the Gold set with a favourite scene, I'm goign to have to do the same thing, thanks for the idea X!

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Originally posted by X:
I very much doubt there will be many more Christopher Lee cards hanging in the wings at RA HQ for future release. That said, I would hope they would have had the good sense to have made a dual auto card of Christopher Lee and Roger Moore. Now THAT would be a card to have and I really hope they did make one.

I agree with you, X. A dual full-bleed autograph card using the classic image below would have been amazing! Who knows, maybe Rittenhouse did think about it??

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Originally posted by X:


I haven't seen the incentive cards mentioned:
6 cases = SILVER SIGNATURE SERIES of Britt Ekland
9 cases = AUTOGRAPH/RELIC CARD of Daniel Craig (Skyfall).
18 cases = ARCHIVE BOX (which includes an exclusive SILVER SIGNATURE SERIES autograph card of George Lazenby)

Curious to see how similar/different these silver signature cards are to the gold card of Roger Moore from the last set.

Pics are now on Rittenhouse's site, the autographs are gold not silver.

Thanks for the heads-up Womble. I thought it was odd they'd start doing silver auto cards when they had only done one gold so far. Great to see the cards. Forgot there was a Lazenby exclusive auto in the Archive Box.

I have a question about an autograph from a past set
is the Judi Dench full bleed incentive a picture from Casino Royale?

The card is definitely labeled on the back as signed by Judi Dench as M in Casino Royale.
I would guess the photo of her on the front is Casino Royale but I an not sure of the scene pictured.

ok thank you

Watch out for the chase cards in this set. 3 of the Liasons cards have been printed wrong, Rittenhouse say they will do re-printed correct versions later.

Specifically, the image for DL19 goes with card-back text for DL26; DL25 image goes with DL19 text; and DL26 image goes with DL25 text.

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Originally posted by wolfie:
Watch out for the chase cards in this set. 3 of the Liasons cards have been printed wrong, Rittenhouse say they will do re-printed correct versions later.

Not much effort has gone into the Dangerous Liaisons Skyfall expansion cards, five of the cards are just the same pictures from their regular 'Skyfall' set. DL19 - #110, DL20 - #44 DL23 - #60, DL25 - #14 and DL26 - #106.

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Originally posted by RP01:
As a seasoned Bond card collector, I thought I'd throw in my views on the latest Bond set.

Honestly, the set leaves me rather unmoved on the whole. The formula of throwback sets and expansion cards has become a little bit repetitive for me, and essentially all the autograph signers are either long-awaited or unknown bit-part actors. I've been a completist of 40th Anniversary autograph cards until this point, but the idea of adding the likes of Joni Flynn, Anthony Forrest or Bendan O'Hea leave me so unmoved, I'm thinking of passing on them! Especially the Joni Flynn card which has a black + white picture!! And talking of upsetting the continuity, dammit why did Rittenhouse have to go and tamper with the 40th Anniversary design and change the 007 logo. It's a total shame they did that!!

Of course, there are some welcome new additions that help to save this set, notably the Mathieu Amalric and David Harbour autos. And I'm also glad to see a repeat Roger Moore card in 40th style, but otherwise that's it for me! For the full bleed collectors, I'm sure the chance of (finally) getting a Christopher Lee, Halle Berry and Teri Hatcher autograph must be exciting (not that I've noticed any outpouring of joy in messages posted so far!! )

Although I find this offering a little lack-lustre (a feeling I've not had since James Bond in Motion many moons ago), I'm not annoyed with Rittenhouse and will continue to support their Bond products and expand my collection. After all, they really have pulled together some amazing sets over the years and I perfectly understand that there are very few big names left out there who haven't yet signed but who might still be possible to get on-board in the future.

Still, I wonder whether it's maybe time for Rittenhouse to start thinking outside the box a bit and explore some new ideas? I've always thought, e.g. a different subset of autographs with theme tune singers would be a winner. Or a set focusing on the artwork of James Bond (e.g. film poster or production artwork), maybe expanding into the area of sketch cards could be good? Maybe even a behind-the-scenes set, with autographs from key production crew. Just some thoughts...

Must say RP01, that after all these years I was very surprised to hear you may pass on 40th style autos! That said, I reached that same point a few sets back so understand where you are coming from and keep my auto pick ups a bit more focused.

I wonder if it's Bond saturation point? It's all very quiet and the product has been out nearly a week. I supposed the new base/chase formula is somewhat repetitive but is that too harsh a criticism when this is only the third set released that has had had a film as a base set and multiple throwbacks/parallels as chase - and we do have 23 films to get through?

Personally, I was getting extremely bored with the numerous compilation sets (Heroes & Villains etc.) as they all seemed a bit on a non-comprehensive rehash whereas and I love seeing a film thoroughly covered with its own full base or 'throwback' set. You Only Live Twice, The Spy Who Loved Me and GoldenEye are happen to be 3 of my favourite Bond films so I find it hard to dislike the current approach when we have never had sets for these cards, and where we have (Inkworks GoldenEye), RA are giving us their take with lots of new images. It seems rare these days companies can get or take a risk on new licences, and rarer still that a company goes back and makes full sets for films released decades ago.

There seems to be some criticism that these throwback sets are hard to complete but then I remember people used to moan that the insert sets were too easy to complete and not worth enough. What do collectors really want? Collectors and dealers asked for sets that are worth more! It seems many are never happy.
On the one hand if you want to bust boxes and buy singles, yes it may cost a fair bit to piece these sets together, especially when postage is added on. On the other hand you can let the dealer do all the hard work. Yes, maybe less fun but some fun in spending less surely?
Ultimately, when I sit here and think "are these throwback sets worth the money being asked for them?" I remember when inkworks where doing their Bond sets, and collectors would not bat an eye at paying £20-£30 for the 9-card chase puzzle. Now we have RA offering 3 chase sets that have an approx. asking price of £40-60 each. However these sets contain 78, 93 and 102 cards respectively.
Collectors are paying more, but pound for pound, IMO collectors are also getting a hell of a lot more for their money. For a GoldenEye throwback set at £60 we're talking 58p per card if you're not buying piecemeal. Is that really such a scandal? Or rip-off?


I don't have any product in hand but based on what I have seen...

> The binder looks awful. So plain and extremely lazy. Seriously, ANY image from ANY of the films would look 100x better than grey text on a black background. Extremely disappointing given the really nice looking gold coloured Archives binders from last year and 2009. I thought we had a there going but I guess not.

> Nice images on the promos and none too hard to track down.

> GoldenEye, The Spy Who Loved Me and You Only Live Twice throwbacks are 3 fan favourites so glad to see them. Particularly GoldenEye as it's my favourite Bond film. I like the 'throwback' concept and understand that for lots of old films the best images are only available in black and white but I am a bit disappointed that the Spy set not in colour. Had there ever been a card set for this movie in back in 1977 it would definitely have been in colour and I doubt there wouldn't have been enough images (Topps did it with Moonraker only 2 years later). I would have loved to have seen cards of Moore in his bright yellow jumpsuit etc. as the film was very colourful and vivid so I see this particular set as a bit of a missed opportunity sadly.

> The Skyfall expansions I have no interest in so have not paid any attention to them but from what people are saying, given three have the wrong backs and as Womble says, the Dangerous Liaisons cards use repeat photos, they come across as a bit on an afterthought. For all those collectors who get angry at waiting years to get particular autograph cards: it has been 3 years since Skyfall came out and I am still waiting on the update cards for the 40th Anniversary chase sets! (and now it will be at least 4 years).

> I think the autograph list is good, but not spectacular, especially compared to last year's set. That said, we have some great new names like Amalric and Lundgren and some long-awaited cards with great images: Hatcher and Berry being the standouts. There are only 8 autos I want from this release, but I like not having to spend a fortune on every set. Special mention for RA getting Sir Christopher Lee again but on full-bleed: an important and much requested card. Interesting seeing who they get on the new style gold autograph cards.

> I don't miss not having any relics of any sort in this set. Nice to let collectors catch their breath after bigger sets.

> LOVE the SPECTRE case-topper card. Many probably think it's a bit boring but being a poster collector I like seeing poster cards such as this UK teaser quad!

I thought Steve had said there would be a second Bond set out at the end of the year but he now said the next set will be 2016. Given this set isn't as 'all-out' as their usual efforts, it feels a bit of a placeholder set just to make sure there was a Bond set out this year.

I would not blame the lackluster response so much on Bond saturation as I would just plain overkill. There are 4 separate, large sets in this release, 6 if you care to count the gold cards. That's too many. The only one that can be completed is the base QoS. The others need to be bought as full sets if you want them and that's assuming that dealers can make enough money on them that they are willing to bust the multiple cases necessary to complete. It's a lot to ask for retro B/W sets. The average collector who is not a Bond fanatic yawns here.

As for the autograph cards, there are a few really good ones in here, but they are short printed as you can always expect. I bought one box and pulled the Forrest and Grant, neither one I remember. It was my attempt at getting lucky, but I didn't and that's it for me. I'm not sorry I tried, but it is very hard to get value out of these Bond boxes if you are just a collector. You have to bust multiple cases to have any reasonable shot at a couple of big autographs and then be able to sell off the excess.

With Bond, RA has gone too far in catering to the case buyers in my opinion. The irony is that even the case buyers have to find the small collectors that will pay enough for these sets to make it at least break even. So if the small collectors lose interest because of overkill, who is supposed to buy it?

But are the prices for the retro sets really that expensive when you are essentially getting 70-100 card chase sets?

And are there "too many" sets when no-one has to buy everything?
I didn't buy the Live And Let Die throwback set from last year's release because it is my least favourite Bond film, but it is a fan favourite. I actually think these retro film sets will have a wider appeal to more casual Bond fans because you don't have to be a Bond "fanatic" to love a particular Bond film.