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Breygent Marketing
May 24, 2017, 12:11 PM
FreddyBreygent Marketing
Here's a "rumor" I heard over the weekend.
I heard that "Breygent went the way of Inkworks."
Anyone else hear that or have facts about it?
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May 24, 2017, 02:09 PM
MvGI sincerely hope not. I am looking forward to their next Grimm release.
Tom, you there?
May 24, 2017, 02:52 PM
RavenCertainly hope that's just a rumor because Breygent hasn't been posting here for quite awhile. They are still advertising in the new NSU, so that's a good sign.
In any event, going the way of Inkworks would mean tons of cards being dumped on the market and collectors and dealers getting burned with the prices shot to hell. That is not Breygent. All their stuff in recent years has been ultra limited, practically custom made. I would not expect much in the way of surplus and prices should hold regardless. No one makes cards quite like they do and hopefully will continue to do, fingers crossed.

May 24, 2017, 03:00 PM
Tommy CI hope that is not the case either, but anything is possible. What licenses does it have, just Bates Motel and Grimm, two shows which are ending ? They need something new
May 24, 2017, 03:36 PM
webjonI hope not too -- they've put out some of my favorite releases. . . Their American Horror Story releases are excellent.
I've been a big fan of their sketch card releases too.
May 25, 2017, 03:22 AM
hammerFingers crossed that this is not true (I had heard it in April but didn't want to believe it). Tom has been great for the hobby but I'm not sure that the sets were selling however much we like them.
Here's hoping that the Rumour is wrong.
May 25, 2017, 07:45 AM
ravenheartThe last couple of releases from them have certainly felt like "clearing the decks" releases to me. I've loved them. Over-loaded with hits, and absolutely no downturn in quality at all. The Bates Motel and Dexter sets have been some of my favourites.
I hope they stick around, but as mentioned above, they are in desperate need of a couple of new, exciting licenses, and need to fix the things which are doing them no favours, like their website being constantly, woefully, out of date and lacking information (like keep printing on their checklist cards that the full list of autograph signers will be available on the website, and then never actually publishing it).
May 25, 2017, 11:11 AM
Tommy CI hope they stick around also. But some prior sets like that Santa Claus serial killer one, were a bit questionable. Not sure how well it sold
May 25, 2017, 11:37 AM
t.breyerwe are working on our toy licenses
May 25, 2017, 01:48 PM
Ravenquote:
Originally posted by Breygent Marketing:
we are working on our toy licenses
Ooch!

Not too good for card collectors.
Tommy, if you mean the Kringle Kards, those sketches were awesome. I picked up two and keep wanting to go back and look for some more when I have extra to spend. I can't speak for others, but I loved the killer Santas because, hey how often do you see that in cards?
The sketch art was really terrific, even from artists that I never heard about. So yeah, the Kringle Kards were an example of a niche product that the majors would never attempt just because all they want is to bleed the same titles that are popular and can be mass marketed.
That's why we need to support smaller manufacturers like Breygent while they are still able to do it.
May 26, 2017, 05:41 AM
ravenheartquote:
Originally posted by Raven:
Ooch!
Yep.
May 26, 2017, 09:35 AM
Tommy CYes, I am talking about the Kringle cards
I can recall that when these came out, many dealers who usually carry ALL of the Breygent product, chose not to carry this set.
So while it might have been nice, if interest is limited, that does not translate into $$$ to sustain the company !
quote:
Originally posted by Breygent Marketing:
we are working on our toy licenses
May 26, 2017, 10:47 AM
hammerquote:
Originally posted by Breygent Marketing:
we are working on our toy licenses
Good luck in whatever you do and MANY thanks for the cards

May 26, 2017, 11:26 AM
Ravenquote:
Originally posted by Tommy C:
Yes, I am talking about the Kringle cards
I can recall that when these came out, many dealers who usually carry ALL of the Breygent product, chose not to carry this set.
So while it might have been nice, if interest is limited, that does not translate into $$$ to sustain the company !
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Well I think that was always the problem for Breygent, how to make such limited sets and still make enough money.
If you make 200 boxes of anything, and there is no demand for it, of course you lose money. But if you make 200 boxes of something and there is great demand for it, you as the manufacturer just sell out at your price. How much money can you profit off of only 200 boxes? The first buyer can jack up the price on the secondary market because of the demand, but the maker only has what he made from the original sellout.
That's why I honestly don't know how it pays for a card manufacturer to get a license and go through all the work of autographs, props and sketches to put out sets that are so limited they are all gone in pre-sell.
I mean that is why the majors like TOPPS keep mining the same material. They mass produce cards for the retail market and target the hobby with limited sets using similar images, that accumulate to nearly the same mass market. But they make enough money to sustain it.
A small card company can put together the best card set in the world and not make enough to stay in business.
May 31, 2017, 01:16 PM
damienis toys a first for Breygent?
May 31, 2017, 02:23 PM
Tommy CDidn't they do Trump bobble heads last year ?
Sort of reminds me of Dart in the 1990s.
They went from cards to Beanie Babies
June 03, 2017, 12:20 PM
damienI wonder if they do toys from their card licenses
like lets say American Horror Story
June 03, 2017, 02:43 PM
RavenI think NECA is probably the best similar model for toys related to entertainment. NECA does the occasional card title too, but there is really no attempt to design for hobby card collectors, just for cheap quick retail consumption. NECA did pick up some decent licenses, including Twilight and Hunger Games, but did very little when it came to the trading cards.
Maybe Breygent is considering something like that, but NECA has been in business for a long time. I have some of their stuff from the early 2000s, probably well before that. They keep releasing new figures all the time.
June 04, 2017, 03:49 AM
chesspiecefaceComic Images also made other stuff after moving away from trading cards. Not too long ago, they were in the Star Wars pavilion at Comic-Con selling plush toys and possibly backpacks, although my memory is a little fuzzy on exactly what. I certainly hope we haven't seen the last from Tom and Co. where cards are concerned, but if we have, they can be proud of their sets. Dexter, AHS, Marilyn, Sci-fi and Classic Movie posters, Ghost Whisperer, Three Stooges, John Wayne, Vampirella, Red Sonja, Project Super-Powers, Woodstock, classic Animation, Tudors, Wizard of Oz, these were great sets, one and all. I didn't collect Bates Motel or Grimm, but I could tell those sets were very well made, too.
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June 04, 2017, 09:14 PM
tsAre they still releasing a new "Grimm" set?