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Star Wars Masterwork 2016

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October 20, 2016, 02:28 PM
Kryten67
Star Wars Masterwork 2016
JUST ANNOUNCED - New Autograph



This is WORD FOR WORD COPIED from Another Forum. (I Can't Possibly Type this Fast )


Classic Signers
Alan Harris as Bossk
Anthony Daniels as C-3PO
Billy Dee Williams as Lando Calrissian
Caroline Blakiston as Mon Mothma
Carrie Fisher as Princess Leia
Clive Revill, Voice of Emperor Palpatine
Corey Dee Williams as Klaatu
David Ankrum , Voice of Wedge Antilles
David Barclay , Puppeteer for Jabba The Hutt
Denis Lawson as Wedge Antilles
Dickey Beer, Double For Boba Fett
Femi Taylor as Oola
Garrick Hagon as Biggs Darklighter
Harrison Ford as Han Solo
Jack Klaff as John D. Branon
Jeremy Bulloch as Boba Fett
John Morton as Dak Ralter
John Ratzenberger as Bren Derlin
Julian Glover as General Veers
Kenneth Colley as Admiral Piett
Mark Dodson as Salacious Crumb
Mark Hamill as Luke Skywalker
Mercedes Ngoh as Rystáll Sant
Michael Carter as Bib Fortuna
Mike Edmonds as Logray
Mike Quinn as Sy Snootles (new for the character???)
Paul Blake as Greedo
Peter Mayhew as Chewbacca
Sean Crawford as Saelt-Marae
Tim Dry as J'Quille
Toby Philpott, Puppeteer for Jabba The Hutt
Warwick Davis as Wicket W. Warrick

Star Wars Rebels Signers
Ashley Eckstein as Ahsoka Tano
Dee Bradley Baker as Captain Rex
Freddie Prinze Jr. as Kanan Jarrus
Jim Cummings as Hondo Ohnaka
Steve Blum as Zeb Orrelios
Taylor Gray as Ezra Bridger
Tiya Sircar as Sabine Wren
Vanessa Marshall as Hera Syndulla

The Force Awakens Signers
Adam Driver as Kylo Ren
Aidan Cook as Bobbajo
Andy Serkis as Supreme Leader Snoke
Anna Brewster as Bazine Netal
Daisy Ridley as Rey
David Acord, Voice of FN-2199
Greg Grunberg as Snap Wexley
Harriet Walter as Doctor Kalonia
John Boyega as Finn
Kiran Shah as Teedo
Rocky Marshall as Colonel Datoo
Sebastian Armesto as Lieutenant Mitaka
Tim Rose as Admiral Ackbar

Prequel Signers
Andrew Secombe as Watto
Bai Ling as Senator Bana Breemu
David Bowers as Mas Amedda
Hugh Quarshie as Captain Panaka
Jerome Blake as Rune Haako
Jett Lucas as Zett Jukassa
John Coppinger as Wookiee Senator
Keisha Castle-Hughes as Queen Apailana
Lewis MacLeod as Sebulba
Mary Oyaya as Luminara Unduli
Matthew Wood as General Grievous
Michael Kingma as Tarfful
Michaela Cottrell as Even Piell
Nina Fallon as Stass Allie
Ray Park as Darth Maul
Rena Owen as Taun We
Rohan Nichol as Captain Raymus Antilles
Scott Capurro as Beed
Silas Carson as Ki-Adi-Mundi
Wayne Pygram as Wilhuff Tarkin

The Clone Wars Signers
Catherine Taber as Padmé Amidala
Daniel Logan as Boba Fett
George Takei as Lok Durd
Nika Futterman as Asajj Ventress
Sam Witwer as Darth Maul
Stephen Stanton as Wilhuff Tarkin
Tom Kane as Yoda

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October 20, 2016, 10:14 PM
ts
That's an impressive list of signers.
October 20, 2016, 10:53 PM
Kryten67
Kenny Baker is in this release.......









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October 23, 2016, 09:11 PM
Sidewinder
Still hate sticker autos. It just makes it so easy to come up with all these dual/triple autos even though the autos aren't anymore special than the single auto cards, they all just come from the same sticker reel.

Still, it's an impressive autograph list for those wanting to collect Star Wars cards.
October 26, 2016, 11:01 AM
Kryten67
as Far as I Know, Only the Multi-Autograph Cards are using Stickers (Maybe the Harrison Ford)The Rest are ON CARD.

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October 26, 2016, 10:50 PM
Obi Wan Chrisobi
Stickers are likely necessary for multi-autograph cards as there really isn't a lot of room on them for multiple signers, especially if some of them have large signatures. By using the stickers, they can determine exactly how much space each person gets.

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October 27, 2016, 03:40 PM
mintoncard
I'm not a fan of sticker autos, but they DO have the hologram watermark, thus ensuring they are authentic. So, there IS that.
October 27, 2016, 05:16 PM
X
I think these signers have signed enough autograph cards in their time to know that they need to sign in the small white box. And if nothing else, their ability to sign on a small sticker proves they can sign just as small on the card itself.

Masterworks really are nice autograph cards with a great look and feel and all on card, but the high-end pulls (double/triple autos) are all crappy stickers!
Topps clearly have repeated access/good relationships with these signers they clearly just can't be bothered with the logistics of sending the same cards out to multiple people.
October 27, 2016, 05:30 PM
Raven
It just comes down to one thing really, easy cards for big money in any product under the same title. These stickers could have been signed this month, last month, last year, for the veteran stars you could possibly go back as far as they have been signing stickers for TOPPS. No way of knowing how long they have been stored or how many are left for future Star Wars products. Meanwhile the combination of related stars as dual or triple signatures ensures that they will have high value cards in the mix and that will support the high box/case price.

Sticker autographs work very well for card manufacturers, their only draw back is that most collectors prefer on-card autographs.
October 28, 2016, 06:08 AM
bone
Are all the cards printed on a thick card stock? I never really liked those.

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November 03, 2016, 12:46 PM
Kryten67
I apologize for Posting this.

I have never heard so many horror stories about a set before..........

I didn't order this one.... I trying to stick with Star Trek.

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November 03, 2016, 06:08 PM
Raven
At this point there are so many Star Wars sets that I can't see how anyone believes that the cards can ever be absorbed if they stopped making them dead in their tracks right now.

They will of course not stop dead now, they will go on for many years. There are at least two more Star Wars movies, plus Rogue One, plus something about a young Han Solo, plus who knows how many films breeding from those stories or secondary characters in those stories. Mass retail cards can flood the stores and super-limited hobby only products can flood the secondary market. Yeah, you can be limited and still flood because the accumulation of limited product is just overproduction of the whole title.

Having said all that and having read about the various gripes already on record for Masterwork 2016, mainly due to TOPPS pre-release misinformation, it will sell out. It may have already. Whether collectors are buying or flippers are buying makes no difference to TOPPS or dealers holding. If people who are trying to sell wind up losing money, it may effect the next product, not this one. Or maybe the one after that, because it takes a long time for people to learn lessons and some people keep making the same mistake.

Eventually it will be evident that retail, hobby, cheap, expensive, mass produced, limited, low tech, hi tech, sticker, on-card, or whatever, they have built a house of Star Wars cards that will collapse under its own weight. But not today. Big Grin
November 03, 2016, 07:33 PM
WOMBLE
I think it is funny how Topps can get the UK stamps (which are still on sale from Royal Mail), stick them on a card with a number, and then call them a 'hit' which can go for over $100. Big Grin
November 04, 2016, 09:40 AM
Tommy C
So what are the horror stories about this set that you mentioned, Kryten ? Bad breaks ?
November 04, 2016, 10:44 AM
Raven
quote:
Originally posted by Tommy C:
So what are the horror stories about this set that you mentioned, Kryten ? Bad breaks ?


I don't know his stories, but TOPPS gave out info that fell through about relics that are not in it, artists that did not contribute in the end and what signers are on stickers and who signed on-card. There are also concerns about sketch quality since artist compensation for this product is reported as having been minimal. And prices are fluctuating.

When the breaks come we will know if they are overblown issues or not.
November 04, 2016, 11:32 AM
mintoncard
Quite a few video breaks of this on YouTube. I can't believe how many people breaking boxes of this product know NOTHING about Star Wars. One guy couldn't even pronounce "Boba Fett". It was shocking (and sad).
November 04, 2016, 11:55 AM
Raven
Not surprised at all. People say these types of high end non-sport cards are designed to attract the big spender sports card collectors. I don't think these guys are sports card collectors either, they are not any kind of card collector. They are Rippers and Flippers who are only interested in selling enough hits to make a profit on what they bought and once they do that they can dump everything else.
November 04, 2016, 06:25 PM
X
quote:
Originally posted by Tommy C:
So what are the horror stories about this set that you mentioned, Kryten ? Bad breaks ?


You should check out the thread on Blowout: page after page of people incandescent with rage at how this product has panned out.

- Cancelled relic cards at the last minute (apparently at Disney/Lucasfilm's orders) that would have been a BIG draw.
- Sticker autographs applied to Medallion cards to make up for the missing relic cards but many seem to hate these "manufactured hits".
- An advertised list of sketch artists but once the product was out Topps said this list was of people who had participated/submitted cards but were not finalised/approved. Many top artist's cards are being held back for a future release ( Topps have confirmed).
- A massively reduced quantity of sketches due to the supposedly stricter approval process (meaning they are coming out approx. 1 per case) and yet some appalling quality sketches have still been inserted!
- A large autograph list with too many repeat low-end signers that can't provide value to breakers. Many cards using the same images seen set after set.
- Masterworks was always sold as a premium product with on-card autos being a main feature, and nobody knew until the product went live that Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, Anthony Daniels and John Boyega are ALL sticker autos! The stickers slapped onto the wood cards are especially horrendous.

To be honest, I find it all hilarious. It's as if the people complaining didn't know Topps is one of the shadiest card manufacturer's out there. When they were willing to shove a billion screaming monkey sketches into Indiana Jones Heritage all those years ago, the writing was on the wall with regards just what Topps are prepared to put in their product and just how little they care about quality and collectors. If these big breakers weren't so concerned with ripping and flipping (greed) they would treat Topps products with the skepticism they deserve.
November 04, 2016, 07:09 PM
Raven
Agree with all you said and would also add that now, in addition to dealing with TOPPS' usual antics, Disney is imposing its own imperial demands on this title. Both card collectors and flippers should be on notice that this is what you can expect going forward, so don't complain that its all such a surprise. Roll Eyes
November 04, 2016, 08:45 PM
Kryten67
Congrats to Ed Webb

SOLD

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