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Originally posted by jaseb:

On the subject of additional artists, yes it's a pain, but all part of the course for SI products and we should really expect no less.

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Originally posted by jaseb:
Regarding Strictly Inks not supporting NSU itself, whilst unfortunate I don't think it would be in the best interests of the hobby only to allow adverisers products to be mentioned on the board. There is a wide spectrum of collectors who post here and support the board by buying NSU and they collect a wide range of products and singling one out seems to me to be an act of prejudice towards both the manufacturer and collector alike. If you don't like it don't post.

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Originally posted by jaseb:
A most interesting reply and typical of a very small minority on here, one of the reasons why I read the board and don't post that muchWhat is that supposed to mean?. I wonder how many people who post here actually support NSU by buying the publication? Maybe they should all be be barred for not supporting the magazine?If you read everything you will know that the board was/is in danger due to the lack of advertising in the magazine Surely the board is for collectors and they should be allowed to post what is relevent to their collecting? Whilst I agree you are entitled to your point of view, so am I and they, it's a little thing called democracy, you may have heard of it. where have you got the lack of democracy from in anything I have posted? I merely stated that my opinion is as valid as yours is, you were the one stating "if you don't like it don't post" Is that Democracy as you see it?

Regarding the aforementioned company, I don't agree with everything they do. They do have faults but any "advertising" issue is surely something between said company and the management of the magazine, not board members?Do you ACTUALLY read the magazine or the board? If you did then you wouldn't have posted this!!!! Read the latest edition and LOOK at the whole NSU web-site

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SI have used this board directly and indirectly to advertise their products FREE of Charge - why should they? Surely a card company with any feeling for the community that purchases it's product would support the forum/magazine?

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Originally posted by BILLZEE:

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SI have used this board directly and indirectly to advertise their products FREE of Charge - why should they? Surely a card company with any feeling for the community that purchases it's product would support the forum/magazine?

Very well said! I so agree with Hammer

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Originally posted by CaptainMal:
To be fair, there isn't a requirement when signing up that a company needs to advertise with NSU to have their product discussed here. I'm not even a fan of SI, especially after the unlicensed product fiasco. But, this post exists because a member started it, and it continues to exist cos members are adding to it. Not really fair to come down on SI when it's not even them keeping this topic going.

Also, I assume that a lot of posters here haven't donated to the upkeep of the forums or took part in the current auction for fund-raising, so do they have no right to post here either? ...

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Originally posted by Doctor Jas:
Looks like I get drawn into this whether I like it or not!! Yes I started the thread, no I don't believe I indirectly advertise a product because I discuss it on here or we're all guilty of it. If I've got 3 posts on a single page then I think I've done well!! I should probably post on here more often so at least I might get bronze status!!

But I will agree with Hammer's comment that many companies know that their products are discussed on this forum in GREAT depth and that they should all do more to support NSU

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Originally posted by hammer:
Doctor - none of this is aimed at cardtalk folk

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Originally posted by webjon:

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Originally posted by hammer:
Doctor - none of this is aimed at cardtalk folk

While I am sure that is the intention these sorts of posts are making people feel ostracized for talking about the cards they like to collect. . .

Speaking from personal experience in another thread these types of threads and posts seem to be splitting the Card Talkers into polarized groups. . . making people feel uncomfortable talking about cards may drive even more people away from Card Talk and NSU (yes, this is happening). Clearly this isn't the intention but it's happening.

I don't want to feel, or be told that I am a 'bad collector' or that I am "part of the problem, and have little to offer to support the hobby" (yes, this was recently said to me in another thread) just because I collect a product or because I don't want to participate in some activity -- i.e. benefit auction, email manufacturers, etc.

To be sure there are many people that share my feelings and thoughts but they are afraid to voice them because they don't want to get singled out and ostracized.

The unintended result of these posts and threads is that some Card Talkers are feeling less welcome. . . And I don't think driving folks away from Card Talk or NSU is going to be good for 'the cause' either.

Jon

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Originally posted by hammer:
Jon - what makes your opinion any better? It's opinions and each are as valid. My main point has been about SI knowingly getting and using the forums for free publicity. I'm not aware that I have called anybody a "bad collector" and I have stated it's about card companies. The fact that you have been "hurt" in another thread doesn't invalidate my opinion on this thread. Maybe some of the posts you make drive people away!

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Originally posted by AUST:
Very nice sketch card sittin9duck....is the artist Chris Achilleos ? looks very much like his style.