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Originally posted by cardinalfan13:
They hold some back for extras if any are damnaged also they need some for archives boxes

There's at least 150 extra 6 case incentives even if everyone had to be replaced that's too many.

I've had this discussion with RA reps and they tell me that there are only a minimum amount of extras held back. I can only assume that the big buyers get fed more than an incentive amount would warrant.

Everytime I hear something like this ( allways assuming it is true of course ) I start to think about that Inkworks warehouse full of cards that didn't exist.

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Originally posted by wolfie:
Everytime I hear something like this ( allways assuming it is true of course ) I start to think about that Inkworks warehouse full of cards that didn't exist.

I simply got the information by looking at a copy of the card on that site which showed the back of the card and the numbering system out of 275.

I have that feeling all the time about "hidden" stock of cards that will appear in the fullness of time.

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Originally posted by wolfie:
Everytime I hear something like this ( allways assuming it is true of course ) I start to think about that Inkworks warehouse full of cards that didn't exist.

You're just getting cynical in your old age.

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Originally posted by Raven:

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Originally posted by wolfie:
Everytime I hear something like this ( allways assuming it is true of course ) I start to think about that Inkworks warehouse full of cards that didn't exist.

You're just getting cynical in your old age.

Once bitten, forever shy.

It would be interesting to get an "Official" response to this query about over producing Dealer Incentives.

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Originally posted by treksearcher:
It would be interesting to get an "Official" response to this query about over producing Dealer Incentives.

Card manufacturers rarely make print runs public unless they number the cards, and even then there are always a few unnumbered versions kept for replacements.

Going strictly by the numbering of 275 and doing the math (6000 boxes = 500 cases = 83.3333 6-case incentives) that's more than 3 times the number of incentives you'd expect. The question is, does it matter where they are?

I think it might if collectors didn't know the true print run and bought the cards at a price that assumed less than 100 were made. But if the numbering is truly up to 275, you have at least a ballpark figure and can adjust your idea of a fair price accordingly. That's a lot more information than you get for most incentives, where you have no idea how many were really made.

If I ever owned a card company I think I'd make ten extra of everything just for my own collection. So my official response would be "it's all in my basement". And that is why I could never make any money making cards. I'd keep them all myself.

I agree, even if they don't' come out with an official statement, the number's right there. So barring any other info we can assume there is more out there then is usual for a 6 case.
I sorta just assumed that the cards were meant for something OTHER then a 6-case. Something where more is needed and then got pushed into this incentive job and they would just withhold the rest. I'm not basing that on anything other then they surely know they won't need 250 of them for the incentives.....

I can't believe that after a week there is still no case break listed.

Steve has stated on the Rittenhouse site they were produced some time ago not knowing how they would be used. The excess will be used for PRIZES ECT. I'm looking forward to all the competitions for those spare cards.

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Originally posted by Chris Cline:
I can't believe that after a week there is still no case break listed.

I think it's only Dealers who seem to be breaking cases and they either don't have the time or the inclination to list the breakdowns.

I would normally have listed my Case breakdown as I used to buy a couple of cases. Now however, I just purchase a Master Set. Less fun but two cases was leaving too much still to chase. So for around the cost of two cases I now get a Master Set and don't have to bother trying to get rid of the masses of spare common autographs.

that makes since to me. I can't even get a case any more. Just to much going on in life right now.

Well I have 2 boxes coming and will report the 8 common auto's when I have opened them

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Originally posted by hammer:
Well I have 2 boxes coming and will report the 8 common auto's when I have opened them

I've ordered a box just for the fun of splitting. I will post the breakdown when it arrives.

Hey 2 of the commons are Ronny Cox and Christopher McDonald. Those are cool autos.

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Originally posted by hammer:
Well I have 2 boxes coming and will report the 8 common auto's when I have opened them

Awwww...here's hoping it's more!

I have not had a chance to post my 4 boxes but 3 came from one case and 1 from another and I got 4 extremely limited autos. I got James Horan as Jo'Brill, Tricia O'Neill as Captain Rachael Garrett , Tim Russ as Devor and Gates McFadden as Dr.Beverly Crusher . So the extremely limiteds may not be as tough as everyone thinks. And the reason I mentioned Ronny Cox and Christopher McDonald is I got them too . So good luck and good breaks to everyone.

RA has posted this on their forums:

There are a bunch of those incentive cards still here. Because we accumulate many of our autographs far in advance and don't always know how we will eventually use them, a card like this can be produced in larger quantities than we really need as a 6-case incentive. But with that said, there's no point in NOT numbering the cards and keeping them around for contest prizes, etc. Better to do that than destroy them.