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Originally posted by hcbrewer:
with Beginnings listed at coming out in February I figured I would look into it and I am not liking what I am reading in this thread and these odds on pulling cards

"approximately 1:10 cases and therefore ensuring that these cards have tremendous value"

tremendous value to who !!!!

I am a completest and this may make me stop collecting Marvel cards and concentrate on the other non-sports cards

wasn't it Upper Deck that killed Marvel back in 1996 by jacking up the prices on their Masterpiece series - you would figure they would of learned, here we go again

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Originally posted by Haljordanfan:
I'm a little lost here. Don't you guys like the thrill of the hunt? I take back what I said about the set off the go. After reading about the inserts and talking to a few other collectors, I'll feel good about this set if its done properly.

I don't even bother with Rittenhouse base & insert sets any longer, as they're in nearly every case. I loved going after the 1995 Emotions and the 2001 Topps Legends foils. It might take a year+ to put a set together, so I'm stoked. On top of that, I'm not big on the artist list at this point, so this more than makes up for it.

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Originally posted by Haljordanfan:

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Originally posted by hcbrewer:
with Beginnings listed at coming out in February I figured I would look into it and I am not liking what I am reading in this thread and these odds on pulling cards

"approximately 1:10 cases and therefore ensuring that these cards have tremendous value"

tremendous value to who !!!!

I am a completest and this may make me stop collecting Marvel cards and concentrate on the other non-sports cards

wasn't it Upper Deck that killed Marvel back in 1996 by jacking up the prices on their Masterpiece series - you would figure they would of learned, here we go again

Your a completest and didn't know that Skybox made the 1996 set?

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Originally posted by Tattoox:
I see your point Jake, and Hal's too, I suppose. To me, sketches and autos are valuable, and rare, so they deserve the higher odds. But to me, holograms aren't unique like sketches, and aren't valuable like autographs.

I remember chasing after the old lenticulars. They were rare, and unique. But you only had to find a few. 42 is just plain nuts, imo. I've bought a case or two trying to put together a master set of X-Files.

It just seems to me, that over 10 cases to put a hologram set together, is too much. Am I doing the math right. I was thinking it was a case. Damn!

As much as I'm going to regret it, I'm not going to be a completest any more.

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Originally posted by Arvin Sloane:

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Originally posted by Tattoox:
I see your point Jake, and Hal's too, I suppose. To me, sketches and autos are valuable, and rare, so they deserve the higher odds. But to me, holograms aren't unique like sketches, and aren't valuable like autographs.

I remember chasing after the old lenticulars. They were rare, and unique. But you only had to find a few. 42 is just plain nuts, imo. I've bought a case or two trying to put together a master set of X-Files.

It just seems to me, that over 10 cases to put a hologram set together, is too much. Am I doing the math right. I was thinking it was a case. Damn!

As much as I'm going to regret it, I'm not going to be a completest any more.

Why do you feel like you have to buy 10 cases to put a set of holograms together? I'm sure you could find someone who'd be willing to trade a hologram for a sketch or autograph.

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Originally posted by goldenavenger:
You can take your time and nibble away at it for a couple/few years....nothing wrong with that.
A lot of collectors like the thrill of the hunt.

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Originally posted by goldenavenger:
Just because one collector thinks it's too tough or expensive to put together a complete set doesn't mean other won't give it a try. You can take your time and nibble away at it for a couple/few years....nothing wrong with that. In fact there's a good chance the prices will come down after the initial 3-6 months, plus you might find some BIN deals or auctions that were listed in the wrong section.

A lot of collectors like the thrill of the hunt. I think it's been too easy to make a set ove the last 5-6 years (marvel related).

By the way, I loved the gold bordered cards from MM07. I was trading them for sketch cards, granted it was a bunch of foils for sketch cards but it was refreshing that there were other cards in the cases that had value besides sketch cards.

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Originally posted by Haljordanfan:
While I agree with John that the 90's were the best times for Marvel cards. I'm feel like getting the bug again. I'll see if the feeling stays closer to release, but UD has my interest.

RA's sets are blah and I missed the chance to piece (hunt) an '07 MM gold border set. I ended up trading a Star Wars sketch for my 07 GB set and that wasn't fun. In fact I still haven't taken it out of the carton that I received it in and that was back in '08. If I had been putting it together myself, I'd have had a binder going the entire time and my little list of cards missing on Excel or Word.

These UD Holograms are peaking my interest more so than sketches from the set (with the possible exception of 1 named artist). I'm just hoping they look good...

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Originally posted by Tattoox:

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Originally posted by Haljordanfan:
While I agree with John that the 90's were the best times for Marvel cards. I'm feel like getting the bug again. I'll see if the feeling stays closer to release, but UD has my interest.

RA's sets are blah and I missed the chance to piece (hunt) an '07 MM gold border set. I ended up trading a Star Wars sketch for my 07 GB set and that wasn't fun. In fact I still haven't taken it out of the carton that I received it in and that was back in '08. If I had been putting it together myself, I'd have had a binder going the entire time and my little list of cards missing on Excel or Word.

These UD Holograms are peaking my interest more so than sketches from the set (with the possible exception of 1 named artist). I'm just hoping they look good...

I don't remember, Nick, are the gold boarder cards parallel cards?

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Originally posted by Sci-FiPlanet:
Hmmmm... lets see take one marvel license and add a company with a bad reputation, shake well... add Super Ultra Rare and Valuable Holograms and Lenticular cards" Now stir:

They are intentionally (by there own words) creating an artificially rare card to bolster the secondary market value of said cards...

Also unlike sketches and autographs THESE cards would be easy for them to reprint.. [Jon Stewart voice]: Not that they have a proven history of doing anything like that! I mean ummm I, well they wouldn't do that!.. umm because that would be wrong... . hmmm.. [/Jon Stewart voice]

Yeah I think I might pass.