A little DC action

Return of Superman base sheet hand numbered /250 (Skybox, 1993)



I was told these are either holos from a comic cover or some promo card.


Riddler hologram from Batman Forever Metal (Fleer, 1995)

More random marvel

1993 Marvel Masterpieces She-Hulk prototype sheet (you can believe when theres a whole sheet for one card, that card will probably be mass produced to all heck, and this is no exception- super common promo. I assume distributed to dealers/shows..it did not come from a magazine to my knowledge).



Spider-man anniversary promo pack (Impel, 1992), sheet signed by John Romita


Not to post a bunch of base sheets but a few that are nice imo.

Silver Surfer Prism base set (Comic Images, 1992)


X-men series 2 base set (Skybox, 1993). Underrated about sheets is the way it presents (orientation/configuration of cards on sheet). Some are downright awful and have every other row flipped upside down cards- see example a couple below this. This base sheet is an excellent example of one done right: All cards upside up. The whole set on one sheet, it’s a self contained sheet (contrast to some sets that split base sets over multiple sheets due to being > 100 cards). Lastly, the symmetry of the presentation.


X-Men series 2 “30 years gold foil” sheet (Skybox, 1993). *Without* the foil layer. That kinda thing can sometimes hurt or help a sheet and its value, more often hurt. I do like curiosities like this a lot, but if I’m being honest I would prefer this particular sheet have the 30 years gold stamped on it.


Two different sheet versions of the 1995 Fleer Ultra Spider-Man ClearChrome sheet (same cards…for some reason two different sheet configurations. No shortprints present).


1995 Fleer Ultra Spider-man base sheet A unfortunately without the foil (not to be confused with the flimsy poster version of this sheet). This sheet was given away as a prize from a contest in 1995 (no I did not win the contest!)

I go for 90s era a lot more, but an interesting trio of modern sheets. These were epack achievements from the Funko Infinity War Saga set (Upper Deck, 2023). I’m not really a big Funko person at all but I thought the sheet was kinda neat. The order is in increasing rarity- Base, Gold foil, Rainbow Patina. The base sheet is quite common and affordable- neat for an uncut sheet to not cost an arm and a leg. The Patina sheet is very scarce. It has a refractor finish on it (scan below doesnt show it well). Instead of breaking these out of the collection to take pics I’ll just use the comc scans.

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Originally posted by catskilleagle:

Wow, those test sheets with the various layers are incredible. Either someone at Skybox had those for decades or they were a gift to someone back then. I find oddball cards similar to that but I don't have sheets like that!

On this point about cards existing like that test sheet- I actually saw a Thing vs Hulk card on eBay way back, and due to the uniqueness took a screen cap of it (sorry for the low quality photo).



It was described as an error card and seller was asking some bonkers price, $25,000 or something (you see this a lot in the error card market, unfortunately). Anyway, it does look a lot like the only-foil uncut sheet I have (which clearly seems to be a test sheet with that group vs an error sheet). Now COULD have some blank uncut sheet gotten only the foil treatment during production to make it into packs and thats a pack inserted error card on eBay? Yes. It would be an awfully scarce error.

You do have to wonder if someone ever gets a sheet like those test sheets might even try to cut the sheet up to make a bunch of “weird error cards” that could be worth a sizeable amount in totality (this would be sacrilege to me to ever cut an uncut sheet up)…let’s hope not.

One last sheet, this one is my all-time favorite uncut sheet and I may have posted it before in the error card thread, but will repost it in the uncut sheet thread.

1993 Marvel Masterpieces Dyna Etch Insert sheet


And a different one…



The difference, if it can be made out from the pics, is the there is no foil on the 2nd sheet. But where did that foil go…the answer is the back! Its an error uncut sheet, combining the two biggest things I collect in cards into one- errors and uncut sheets.


It’s like an error being caught in action, as it happened. Side note: it was surprisingly difficult to get that “2-sided frame”, as it’s not a usual thing people would want, but I think it was important to have the back of this sheet visible. It ended up taking going to Michael’s and having them do a special order on the custom frame job…probably wondering what kind of nut case wants both sides of a frame visible for something that is usually hung on a wall.

Up close of no foil front sheet

(these no foil-Dyna’s have been observed as pack inserted error cards, going back to that point above).

Up close back of sheet


Amazingly, there are pack inserted error cards of this entire situational error (no foil front, foil of different character on back)- I have just one, it’s probably one of the more whacky errors I have.

Cerebra no foil front


Compared to regular foil insert


Back of the card has Krystalin’s foil.


The astute observer will notice this error is not the *exact* scenario going on with that error uncut sheet above- the foil was on back but was applied upside down compared to how it was applied on the uncut sheet above.

Anyway…some examples of sheets..add like 30 large framed base sheets to that, and you can see how collecting uncut sheets will quickly take up an entire room of storage…no wonder it’s a niche hobby..d’oh!

Comic Images didn't advertise that there were holochrome parallel cards inserted - not on the boxes of The Chromium Conan, nor Best of Olivia (all-chromium) anyway. I also looked around Ebay and found a seller note that the company inserted the holochromes as an "unnannounced surprise" with 1-3 cards inside each box of all-chromium titles. It was something dealers or collectors noticed shortly after boxes were released. Maybe it was a test to try out another look for the cards and see what kind of reaction they'd get? Maybe Marvel wanted to try out the look too. It might have turned out to be too expensive to create a base set of holochromes.

Yeah, I'm afraid we're buying from a lot of people who are not the original customers (so they know little or nothing), and even if they are, memories get foggy across thirty years or more. It's a bummer when it involves an oddball item.

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Originally posted by wolverine651:
Wow thank you for all the info! I looked up some Olivia chrome cards and sure enough, Signs and Glassworks patent on the back. Since those were 1 per box it sounds more like an intended parallel set. I was unaware of the holochrome inserts in Marvel (until seeing that sheet) because they definitely weren’t an official insert in the sets and they appear to be quite scarce compared to the total print run. It might be a good idea for people to check their Marvel chrome-like insert cards for any rainbow foil ones, since I don’t think these are common knowledge even within the marvel card hobby. A whole uncut sheet of the holochrome Olivia would be an amazing find (not sure would go over that well hanging that sheet on the wall here though- haha).

The 92 Battle Spectra sheets are kinda baffling, I assume some sort of testing in the production stage (the seller I bought them from didnt have any background on them). I may even try to reach out to Bob Budiansky sometime about them, as he would be the one to ask (main marvel trading card editor/overseeer at time of Impel and Skybox.

I am not historically a Star Wars collector so this is new to me and I’m learning, thanks! I looked up some examples of the holofoil version and wow they are pretty snazzy. I really like this insert set. I think we can say without a doubt the sheet above is the “etched foil” version.

Yes, I think we're talking about the same card as below. To make sure there is no mix-up, I checked the 2005 edition of PCE and it also documents SDCC as the source of this card.

Also, I've said it before that I found this card (signed by Dave Dorman!) in the late 90's in a bargain box of a dealer at a local show - got it for a dollar. Arguably my best card find ever.

That DC hologram sheet shows the four different promos that were inserted with the 4-issue "Robin II: The Joker's Wild" comic.

Thanks for the images of the additional sheets. That's a nice bonus having the Romita autograph on the Spider-Man 30th anniversary promo sheet.

Yeah, I've noticed that some sellers want way too much for error cards even if they are strikingly/attractively misprinted. A couple of weeks ago, I saw a SuperStars MusiCards error with a Cher back and a lesser-known music group on the front. The dealer wanted $80 - too high for something with just a wrong back. Also, I think it would be more valuable if Cher were on the front. Even then, I'm thinking maybe a $20 card at most (would two Cher fans duel it out toward $80? - might be interesting to see how that would end after a 7-day auction

Man thats a nice find for just a buck catskill- the kind of find we all dream about. Even unsigned that Venom promo is probably $50-80 at this point. Since both your source and nslists is saying SDCC we’ll just go with that on the Venom.

I just checked the Robin II Joker Wild on eBay and yep looks like a match for those holos, thank you for that info. The back of that holo sheet is blank- no backs on the cards.

Don’t even get me started on the whackiness of error card pricing (haha!). It’s so frustrating, theres a lot of misconception among the general collecting public with error cards. You see a slight miscut card on eBay and sellers think it’s gold. I see errors priced at $1k, $3k etc- some that are pretty egregious and I’d actually be quite interested in- but not to buy it for thousands of dollars when at auction it probably goes for like $100 tops. So those errors end up as museum pieces on eBay, never to sell at those prices. People think because an error is unique (or almost unique) that it must be worth a ton…but that’s ignoring the demand side of the equation, and the demand in error cards outside famous ones like 1990 Topps Frank Thomas NNOF is quite niche. The famous errors widely known in pulp culture like the inverted Jenny stamp arent helping things either, going for $1 million. In your case…I would say $80 isnt totally as bad as plenty error asking prices I see in marvel cards…but for a typical wrong back yea it’s probably on the high end. Typically with these situations, at auction the error will fetch far less than the BIN asking. The other month I saw a super interesting 1995 Fleer Ultra Spider-Man Chrome insert wrong back error card get sent to auction..and only got like $15 (I would have easily paid $100 for it BIN..problem is I missed the auction). If anyone is holding rare error cards I would probably advise against selling it at auction.

Yeah, that Venom promo has been holding its value even post-pandemic and even after numerous sales. I would say it's in that range too.

That Robin holo sheet might be a proof sheet - something normally thrown away but somebody thought it was cool enough to keep. We're lucky down the road when that happens.

Yeah, the problem with auctioning a rare/cool item is you have no idea if at least two collectors of that kind of thing are going to check for it in the time the auction runs. You're unlucky if only one does. One time, I saw something relatively rare that had one bid and got a bid in but was outbid. I decided not to try again so whoever won it got a pretty good deal just under the going-rate. The seller was probably hoping for me or someone else to test that winning bidder's maximum.

I agree. Most wrong backs are probably $10-20 cards. It would need some kind of bonus to push it further like another error (wrong number, missing/wrong foil, etc.) or be a photo of somebody famous or be the art of somebody famous, and/or be a Marvel card.

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