NSU Home | NSU Store | In The Current Issue... | Contact Us | | |
Go | New | Find | Notify | Tools | Reply |
Platinum Card Talk Member |
We first looked at this list in 2014. I'm updating it currently, and I have 151 terms so far. So, I ask the community to look over the list. Tell me what I'm missing, what could be clearer, and what I'm plain wrong about. I want this to be a comprehensive list. But, there is also the discussion about whether you put all the terms that one manufacturer uses (Like Skybox/Upper Deck's Precious Metal Gems or Jambalaya cards) or if that is going into too much detail. Please, discuss at length. Here's the list so far: Thanks for your help on this. Ed ____________________ Trading Page Now Online: http://www.scifi.cards/trading.html Collecting Sketches of the Character Crystal | ||
|
Diamond Card Talk Member |
Not sure if I was there or not, but don't really recall seeing this whole list of terms. There are a couple I have never heard of, like shaped sketch, spot gloss and x-up sheets. I could think of these additions, although I wouldn't know if there is universal usage. Rainbow Refractor - It is actually different from a regular refractor and is supposed to have a premium added. Of course many times no one could pick out the difference without direct comparison, so it's worth is debatable. Franchise Title - I use that for continuous bedrock titles like Star Wars, Star Trek, Bond, etc. Licenses that anchor a maker with a line of products. Ultra-Premium Product - Yes I think it should be used when talking about these products that are going out for over $200 a box or have a single $400 set with hits. Any mainstream title from a major card manufacturer is a premium card product these days. So premium has become average, but DC Heroes and Villians, Stellar, RA Buffy and the last Outlander are not average. Niche Title - I like that as a term also. You know the ones I mean. Titles that appeal to a limited segment of card collectors, ones that are lucky to get even a sngle release and will not be repeated. Crowd Funded Cards or Kickstarter Cards or whatever else you want to call them - The products that have to be commissioned and ordered through crowd funding websites and directly through the card makers. Certified Autograph Card - Surprised that one's not there already, although maybe the Autograph Card was supposed to cover it, but it doesn't. Any card can be autographed, only the Certified Autograph Card comes directly from a card product. In-Person Signature or Uncertified Autograph - The autograph you get at the show or in the street that may not have documentation and is not guaranteed unless it gets authenticated. Provenience - Might have spelt that wrong. Not just the origin, but what you can show to prove the origin of something to support its authenticity. Correlation - That's a must term. You could also call it box/case construction. How is the product being packed? Are you getting the same cards, in the same order? If correlation isn't done well, it's bad. Got to go. Hope others pick it up. If I think of anything else I'll add it for your review. | |||
|
Diamond Card Talk Member |
Oh one more obvious one. Inscription or Inscription Autograph, very big as "new" type of hit now. | |||
|
Diamond Card Talk Member |
As to the discussion. I would shy away from any terms or identifiers that are very specific to a particular product or card maker. For instance ePacks are OK to include because its almost a separate market, even though its all UD. However to include Valyerian as a card style would be too specific to one RA design for one title. Full Bleed and Bordered designs are less specific to RA. But it is a matter of balance, so there is room to add anything as long as it applies to more than one product/title. OK, a few more terms for consideration. Film Cell or Film Cell Card - A hit that at one time did contain a mounted genuine film cell from a movie reel. Now a days, its just a plastic replica of a film scene, sometimes the same scene. Swatch or Costume Swatch or Swatch Card - This is the part of a costume card, better known as a relic card now, that is the cut piece of material. One Color Swatch or Multi-Color Swatch - Same as above, but referring to a solid color material or material that has 2 colors, 3 colors or a print of colors. Premiums are applied for multi-colors. Manufactured Hit - Well they are all manufactured, but it means that the item mounted is not genuine to a person, show, film, or other source. The swatch or patch or medallion or prop was created by the card maker for the sole purpose of going into a card. Artificial Scarcity - Well again artificial scarcity is built in to all modern collectibles, whether they are numbered or not. Over Production - The opposite of artificial scarcity. When cards are made in numbers far exceeding any buyer demand and thus the supply will linger on forever. Rookie Card - Yes its a term used only for sports cards, but I have seen some people trying to apply it to the first appearances on non-sport cards lately. Like in Baby Yoda's rookie card. Anything to boost interest. Lobby Cards - The kind of photo sets, usually 8x10s, used to display in movie theatres. Not really cards, but often turned up in collectible searches. Home-Made Item or Custom Made Item - Written in a lot of eBay descriptions. It really means unlicensed and often cheaply cards and collectibles that have no value beyond the transaction price. | |||
|
Gold Card Talk Member |
Hi Ed, I would change your "lenticular" definition to one that states the card displays more than one image when tilted. It may be "dual image" to show slight motion or just two different images (e.g. a prehistoric animal and its modern analogue or a hero and his archnemesis or just two different views of the same subject). A lenticular card might include a number of images to show motion. I would add that a "sample card" can be just a single from the released base set or it can be a specially-printed/stamped/stickered version of a base card (or less-frequently of a chase card). I would add the term, "prototype." A prototype is sometimes synonymous with "promo" in that it is a card given away in some way but a prototype tends to lack any obvious advertising text. A prototype is generally the originally-designed or otherwise early version of a card from the base set which may or may not be what the finished, released card ends up looking exactly like. It may or may not be marked as a "prototype." The only difference might be just a slight rearrangement or minor rewrite of text on the back or a difference in color of the text or the card might not be numbered. I would also add the term, "unreleased card:" a card that the company printed but for some reason decided not to release in any official way. It was not included in the packs, boxes, or any other products (factory set insert nor product premium). It was not given out as a promo but might have been originally intended as such. The card might have been printed early in the process and bear some set information not reflected in the later official product so a revised version is the one that ended up getting released. These cards might surface on the market later because employees had access to them or because any remaining ones got discovered by another company/individual among the remaining assets after the card company went out of business. JessThis message has been edited. Last edited by: catskilleagle, | |||
|
NSU Writer |
Ed, this is really good and useful info for beginners and old hands. There are a few things that can be added, certainly some of Raven's suggestions, I would include Kiss Card, which is becoming more common in WWE as well as Benchwarmer. | |||
|
Gold Card Talk Member |
Hi Raven, You mean "provenance." Right, it's not just the origin of a particular card/item but also the history of ownership/change of location of that item. It would be most applicable to the rarer cards such as an extremely limited, numbered autograph or slabbed vintage card. In the case of vintage items some collectors would like to know who owned the item previously and/or whether it had been previously auctioned off, or otherwise displayed in public. A photo of a previous owner holding the particular item or its listing in a back issue of an auction catalog would show provenance. Jess
| |||
|
Platinum Card Talk Member |
collation | |||
|
Platinum Card Talk Member |
Ed -- what's the list for? Unless it is going to be specific for Card Talk I'd avoid Card Talk specific terms -- there are several that have been posted that I've never seen anywhere else. Another one to consider that I have been seeing more recently applied to entertainment cards is junk wax. | |||
|
Platinum Card Talk Member |
Interesting. . . to me Modern cards are later -- basically whenever hits started happening regularly, so what early to mid 1990s. I.E. I really don't consider Return of the Jedi, The A-Team or the early Garbage Pail Kids -- or really anything of that era cards to be modern. . . | |||
|
Platinum Card Talk Member |
PSC (Personal Sketch Card) | |||
|
Gold Card Talk Member |
Hi Jon, I agree. The modern era would be the time companies transitioned to inserting various bonus cards other than stickers as a regular practice. It might be more convenient for the cut-off to be anything after 1989. Jess
| |||
|
Diamond Card Talk Member |
And I tried to look that up to, but it looks like we should say collate without the "ion". Nice to see the suggestions coming in. I like the Kiss Card from Don and I hate to say it, but there was at least one adult product that had N _ _ _ _ E Cards. Try coming up with a description for that one. | |||
|
Member |
This is kind of nit-picky, but I'm not sure I would say: "Lenticular… A card stock that is plastic and has either a motion or 3D image within the card." The LENS is plastic, but I believe card stock is actually paper. (At least it looks like it.) It might be worth checking with a printer to be sure. ____________________ "Life is a sexually transmitted terminal disease." -Papa Prell | |||
|
Diamond Card Talk Member |
Price Guide - Beckett/NSU would never forgive the omission. | |||
|
Diamond Card Talk Member |
The description for the content of Archive Box has to be adjusted for recent developments. Not all pack inserted chase cards can be found in an Archive Box these days. Also there are now Archive Box Exclusive Cards, which differ from what falls under the Exclusive description given. Along the lines of Jess' "unreleased card" might be the Unreleased Blank Certified Autograph Card. Like the ones that Halle Berry never signed for CatWoman or X-Men. I would also add a variety of manufacturer security seals, which could include Hologram Seals (UD) or Embossed Seals (Skybox/Fleer), or crimped seals or those little Gold Stars and Round Circles (Star Pics) that peeled right off and encouraged more forgeries. Not sure how you would list or name all of them. | |||
|
Platinum Card Talk Member |
But if they're not modern, are they vintage? Actually, you could probably go a bit further back, basically when there started to be insert cards like stickers. I agree that a new age started with "hits", and especially with the first 1 hit per box products. What cards need is more labels, vintage and modern no longer are enough. Like ages for comics, we have eras within trading cards but no names or consensus to what those eras actually are. Used to be Vintage was anything over 30 years old, but the target keeps moving as I get older. If I collected it as a kid, it can't possibly be vintage. Might drop the modern term entirely, for lack of a firm definition. Ed ____________________ Trading Page Now Online: http://www.scifi.cards/trading.html Collecting Sketches of the Character Crystal | |||
|
Platinum Card Talk Member |
Well, the list currently resides on my website as a resource. I'm curious what terms you have not heard and think might be Card Talk Exclusives? (yes, the exclusive definition also needs updating). I found it interesting that Raven had not heard of shaped sketches, spot gloss, or X-Up Sheets. I know sketches are not her thing, so she might have missed that one. But 2, 4, and 6-up sheets were prevalent in the 90's advertising many different sets. So I ask for discussions on these. Sometimes it's a regional thing. I see that when I go to Philly and especially from the vintage dealers. But when I moved to AZ, some terms just weren't used down here like I was used to. Nobody here knows what a Broder card is. I've never heard of a Rainbow Refractor. Refractors by their very nature are rainbows so I don't understand the use. I'd love to see an example, but refractors also don't scan worth a hoot. I definitely missed collation. Also need to work on defining autographs better/differently. On the fence on some of the suggestions. Some seem outside the hobby. Will have to consider all. I don't want to clutter the list to the point people gloss over stuff. Ed ____________________ Trading Page Now Online: http://www.scifi.cards/trading.html Collecting Sketches of the Character Crystal | |||
|
Platinum Card Talk Member |
Another suggestion: Raw card. | |||
|
Platinum Card Talk Member |
Totally agree. . . The vintage collectors may have more labels for vintage eras -- I've heard pre-war before, but I have no idea if that is prevalent, also I think tobacco is an era as well. The late 70s through the 80s have always been a bit of a no mans land. I have no idea what that era is called. . . Perhaps we can call it post-vintage or junk wax era or something. . . I dunno, but it's not modern. Jon PS: What's a Broder card? | |||
|
Powered by Social Strata | Page 1 2 3 4 |
Please Wait. Your request is being processed... |