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August/September Arrives in my Mailbox
August 06, 2021, 11:50 AM
Don NortonAugust/September Arrives in my Mailbox
Just a few minutes ago my latest issue arrived and I guess I was not expecting one yet. DC Infinite Earth Cover, 2 promos, RRParks Three Stooges Lenticular Motion Cards and Cryptozoic CZX Middle Earth.
Nice looking issue, was really impressed with what they did with my article on 1976 Star Trek. Also cover article and an artist bio on our friend Laura Inglis.
August 06, 2021, 12:21 PM
RavenExcited that they are at least putting out CZX Middle Earth promo cards. Maybe there actually will be a product someday.

The NSU promos for DC Infinite Earth came out so long ago, I would have sworn the cards were already out.

Guess I got it mixed up with Supergirl.
August 07, 2021, 02:03 AM
hammerquote:
Originally posted by Don Norton:
Just a few minutes ago my latest issue arrived and I guess I was not expecting one yet. DC Infinite Earth Cover, 2 promos, RRParks Three Stooges Lenticular Motion Cards and Cryptozoic CZX Middle Earth.
Nice looking issue, was really impressed with what they did with my article on 1976 Star Trek. Also cover article and an artist bio on our friend Laura Inglis.
Sounds great, hope mine doesn't take 6 weeks to get here like last one
August 11, 2021, 02:47 PM
RavenArrived today. The 2 promos were CZX Middle-earth P1 and The Three Stooges Series Nine P1.
Although Series Nine says Lenticular Motion Cards, the promo is just a regular card.
The Middle-earth promo is a thicker, glossy card like all CZX, but character montage is dark on borderless background. Only Gandalf stands out in his white.
I don't know what card makers have against bright, colorful photos.

August 11, 2021, 03:37 PM
FRANK AMICOIT REALLY GETS ME MAD THAT IT APPEARS EVERYONE GET THE CORRECT 2 PROMO CARDS AND I DIDN'T. WHY DO THESE THINGS ALWAYS HAPPEN TO ME??????? I CALLED UP BECKETT AND THEY TOLD ME THERE WAS NOTHING THEY COULD DO TO GET ME THIS PROMO. APPARENTLY THESE ARE HAND SORTED. I THINK SOMEONE MAY HAVE DISTRACTED. HARD TO COUNT OUT 2 CARDS-PROBABLY A PRODUCT OF OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM.
August 11, 2021, 04:07 PM
catskilleagleNo, Frank, it happens from time to time. I think the last time there was a Lord of the Rings promo inserted, I didn't get that one with my issue. It would've been nice to have but oh well. Humans are imperfect. The card might have slipped unnoticed out of someone's hand and was found on the floor later or maybe they ran out of them. I understand the frustration but you might be able to find it cheap or trade for it later.
August 11, 2021, 04:26 PM
RavenI did notice that the small white envelope with the promos wasn't sealed, just folded in, when I went to tear it open. Its possible for a card to slip out before being placed in the middle of the magazine to be bagged. I honestly can't swear that promo envelopes were always sealed before, but I kind of think they were. Maybe someone else can say or at least confirm when they get their issue. It is disappointing to not get all the cards expected.
If its any consolation Frank, I think you got the CZE promo, and that was the better one.

August 11, 2021, 05:16 PM
wolfiequote:
Originally posted by Raven:
I honestly can't swear that promo envelopes were always sealed before,
Yes they were.
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August 11, 2021, 05:21 PM
JOHN LEVITTRaven
I have several of these envelopes tucked away in a drawer ready for re-use, which is mainly when I send off to Rittenhouse for one of their promo cards and occasionally two, I would not be able to do that if they were sealed.
Perhaps they were only sealed when the Toser's were responsible for NSU.
regards
John
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August 11, 2021, 06:46 PM
RavenI dunno, I can definitely remember tearing them because I had to rip the edge and watch out not to catch the cards. It was way after the Tosers and I wouldn't have to tear it if the flap was only folded over. I just can't say if recent promo envelopes were all sealed, or if only some of them were sealed, or if none of them were sealed. Sounds like a survey.

August 12, 2021, 11:47 AM
RavenDon't know where to put this because there is no thread yet for CZX Crisis On Infinite Earths, but it is the NSU Aug./Sept. cover.
While NSU is carrying the release time for both Crisis On Infinite Earths and Middle-earth as TBA, I just got the email update from CZE. Middle-earth isn't mentioned, but Infinite Earths is down as 1st Quarter 2022 with no price. Of course that is probably their most optimistic guess.
August 12, 2021, 11:57 AM
Ted Dastick Jr.quote:
Originally posted by FRANK AMICO:
IT REALLY GETS ME MAD THAT IT APPEARS EVERYONE GET THE CORRECT 2 PROMO CARDS AND I DIDN'T. WHY DO THESE THINGS ALWAYS HAPPEN TO ME??????? I CALLED UP BECKETT AND THEY TOLD ME THERE WAS NOTHING THEY COULD DO TO GET ME THIS PROMO. APPARENTLY THESE ARE HAND SORTED. I THINK SOMEONE MAY HAVE DISTRACTED. HARD TO COUNT OUT 2 CARDS-PROBABLY A PRODUCT OF OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM.
Worth reaching out to Richard Parks. I'm really surprised Beckett doesn't keep a few extras just in case. They may be hand-sorted, but there have to be extras somewhere.
August 12, 2021, 02:02 PM
FRANK AMICOACTUALLY I DIDN'T GET THE STOOGE PROMO-THE LOTR WAS THERE.
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Originally posted by catskilleagle:
No, Frank, it happens from time to time. I think the last time there was a Lord of the Rings promo inserted, I didn't get that one with my issue. It would've been nice to have but oh well. Humans are imperfect. The card might have slipped unnoticed out of someone's hand and was found on the floor later or maybe they ran out of them. I understand the frustration but you might be able to find it cheap or trade for it later.
August 12, 2021, 02:05 PM
FRANK AMICOI DID. I MAY BE ORDERING THIS SET DEPENDS ON THE $. HE IS DISCOURAGING WRITE IN REQUESTS FOR PROMOS BUT HE IS SO COOL IF I PLACE AN ORDER HE MAY SEND ME ONE ANYWAY. NOTHING COMING UP OF INTEREST THAT HE IS PUTTING OUT UNITL THIS AND THE NEXT CHOKE SET. I HOPE THIS IS STILL AVAILABLE AS I MAY HAVE TO ACTUALLY BUY IT OR TRADE FOR IT DOWN THE LINE.
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Originally posted by Ted Dastick Jr.:
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Originally posted by FRANK AMICO:
IT REALLY GETS ME MAD THAT IT APPEARS EVERYONE GET THE CORRECT 2 PROMO CARDS AND I DIDN'T. WHY DO THESE THINGS ALWAYS HAPPEN TO ME??????? I CALLED UP BECKETT AND THEY TOLD ME THERE WAS NOTHING THEY COULD DO TO GET ME THIS PROMO. APPARENTLY THESE ARE HAND SORTED. I THINK SOMEONE MAY HAVE DISTRACTED. HARD TO COUNT OUT 2 CARDS-PROBABLY A PRODUCT OF OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM.
Worth reaching out to Richard Parks. I'm really surprised Beckett doesn't keep a few extras just in case. They may be hand-sorted, but there have to be extras somewhere.
August 12, 2021, 02:06 PM
FRANK AMICOI HAVE BEEN TOLD THESE ARE HAND STUFFED.
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Originally posted by Raven:
I did notice that the small white envelope with the promos wasn't sealed, just folded in, when I went to tear it open. Its possible for a card to slip out before being placed in the middle of the magazine to be bagged. I honestly can't swear that promo envelopes were always sealed before, but I kind of think they were. Maybe someone else can say or at least confirm when they get their issue. It is disappointing to not get all the cards expected.
If its any consolation Frank, I think you got the CZE promo, and that was the better one.
August 13, 2021, 05:33 AM
Scifi Cardsquote:
Originally posted by Raven:
Don't know where to put this because there is no thread yet for CZX Crisis On Infinite Earths, but it is the NSU Aug./Sept. cover.
While NSU is carrying the release time for both Crisis On Infinite Earths and Middle-earth as TBA, I just got the email update from CZE. Middle-earth isn't mentioned, but Infinite Earths is down as 1st Quarter 2022 with no price. Of course that is probably their most optimistic guess.
I can tell you that they have not solicited orders yet.
1Q2022 might still be right though. That's 6 months or more out, and they usually only take orders a few months out.
Just wonder who is steering the ship at Cryptozoic now. Maybe we'll meet the new captain at Philly (in Philly) come October.
Ed
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August 14, 2021, 02:31 PM
Ravenquote:
Originally posted by Scifi Cards:
Just wonder who is steering the ship at Cryptozoic now.
Ed
I think they will have a problem with Infinite Earths, no matter who is in charge.
The 'event' was shown in parts on the CW between December 2019 and January 2020. Right there it's dated and people have forgotten about it.
Putting out an expensive CZX premium product on DC characters in the movies is one thing and doing it for DC characters on the cheesy CW is another. There may still be demand, but not so much when its over $200 a box.
Some of these shows and actors are already gone or going. Supergirl is cancelled and Ruby Rose left Batwoman. Plus there have been sets already made on some of the shows with autographs already on the market.
I'm still interested in Middle Earth, if it ever materializes, but this one would be DOA for me. Its just my opinion and based on what I think will be the price. If it came out a year ago or if it's become a regular $80 box I could see it. It didn't come out and I don't expect the cost to drop when it does. I think it was a mistake, but of course you don't know until you know.

August 16, 2021, 08:50 AM
FRANK AMICOI really wish these cards were printed on regular card stock without all the fancy foil. It would cut down on the costs and could still have the autographs.
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Originally posted by Raven:
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Originally posted by Scifi Cards:
Just wonder who is steering the ship at Cryptozoic now.
Ed
I think they will have a problem with Infinite Earths, no matter who is in charge.
The 'event' was shown in parts on the CW between December 2019 and January 2020. Right there it's dated and people have forgotten about it.
Putting out an expensive CZX premium product on DC characters in the movies is one thing and doing it for DC characters on the cheesy CW is another. There may still be demand, but not so much when its over $200 a box.
Some of these shows and actors are already gone or going. Supergirl is cancelled and Ruby Rose left Batwoman. Plus there have been sets already made on some of the shows with autographs already on the market.
I'm still interested in Middle Earth, if it ever materializes, but this one would be DOA for me. Its just my opinion and based on what I think will be the price. If it came out a year ago or if it's become a regular $80 box I could see it. It didn't come out and I don't expect the cost to drop when it does. I think it was a mistake, but of course you don't know until you know.
August 17, 2021, 02:26 PM
Ravenquote:
Originally posted by FRANK AMICO:
I really wish these cards were printed on regular card stock without all the fancy foil. It would cut down on the costs and could still have the autographs.
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I wish the cards were brighter and showed more color. They are usually edge to edge borderless or dark bordered photos with high gloss and heavy on the blacks and browns. The foil is supposed to standout, but that little CZX logo doesn't do much to liven it up.
And no matter how improved the quality of the base cards or how many boxes necessary to complete a base set, I think we are seeing all of them sold complete for very little when they first come out. Not $5 sets, but maybe $25. Premium base sets are still being dumped in comparison to the box cost.
But you need big autographs to carry big product box prices, at least as a hook. CZX Super Heroes & Super-Villains contained a few big autograph cards, how ever tough the odds. Its possible for Middle Earth to carry a few big signatures, if they can get them. The best Infinite Earths will have are the main CW TV stars, if you can find them, and some will be repeats from other products. It's not the same thing and I don't see how they are going to trade high enough to lure in lots of speculating box/case breakers.
August 20, 2021, 05:46 AM
JOHN LEVITTMy subscription magazine arrived today with both promo cards.
regards
John
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