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Regarding the rare Yoda promo, we all know the story about how it was withdrawn because the art was not approved. But does anyone recall when and how people first learned of its existence? Was it first reported somewhere ? And when was the first known sale? Keep in mind this was all before wide scale use of the internet in the late 90s. Back then you learned of these things in print form or by meeting people at shows.
 
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I don't remember when I first heard about it and I might have first read it in that "Collect!" article, "Collectors Most Wanted" from September 1996. It was an annotated list of the top 18 most wanted promo cards/sets. In it, Lee Stinson Lane, one of the big collectors at the time, reported that the licensor didn't approve the artwork but the card did get printed and about 50 got out. Lane knew of just one sale at $200 at the time.

NSU didn't have it in the price guide by the Feb-March 1996 issue. Maybe Bill Mullins recalls when collectors started talking about it - maybe as a rumor at first. I don't have an issue after that until the Dec 1997-Jan 1998 issue in which Bill DeFranzo priced it as "speculative." In any case it seems there were a couple of years after the set was released before this P3 first leaked onto the market.

Since then, the going-rate for the card pierced the $1000 level early but dropped and settled around $300-350 in recent years because there was always one (sometimes two) on Ebay. It seems like more than 50 got out and the estimate seems to be around 100.

The card has jumped in value this year for some reason - maybe because it hasn't been easy to find in that time. One sold was an auction that ended at $699.99 with 26 bids on August 22 and another sold as a Best Offer for somewhere less than $999.99 (maybe $750-900?) on August 30.


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Regarding the rare Yoda promo, we all know the story about how it was withdrawn because the art was not approved. But does anyone recall when and how people first learned of its existence? Was it first reported somewhere ? And when was the first known sale? Keep in mind this was all before wide scale use of the internet in the late 90s. Back then you learned of these things in print form or by meeting people at shows.

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Maybe Bill Mullins recalls when collectors started talking about it - maybe as a rumor at first.


Nope, I don't. And I don't recall when I stopped doing the promo card listings, but I don't think I was aware of it being expensive at that time.
 
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Bill D. was the pricing specialist by the end of 1997 and started his promo column in the Dec 1998/Jan 1999 issue


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Maybe Bill Mullins recalls when collectors started talking about it - maybe as a rumor at first.


Nope, I don't. And I don't recall when I stopped doing the promo card listings, but I don't think I was aware of it being expensive at that time.
 
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One of these P3's sold for $895 on April 30.
 
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that "Collect!" article, "Collectors Most Wanted" from September 1996. It was an annotated list of the top 18 most wanted promo cards/sets.


Can you post the other 17 -- just the list, no annotations? I wonder how the list has held up.
 
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Can do.

1. Americana 7 card set.

2. Avengers Series 1 (Cornerstone, 1992) A0. Only 10 released.

3. Country Gold Series 1 promo #3 (The Judds).

4. Biosphere (Acorn, 1991) promo set. 500 of each card produced with 31 different cards known at the time.

5. Creators Master Series (Skybox, 1994) P0 "Biohazard."

6. DC Cosmic Teams (Skybox, 1993) P1.

7. Civil War Heritage Collection Series 1 (Bon Air, 1991) 20 prototype set and the Civil War Heritage Collection Series 2 (Bon Air, 1992) 12 prototype set.

8. Gone with the Wind (Duo cards, 1996) Promo #1 and #3.

9. Hollywood Walk of Fame Series 1 (Starline, 1991) 8-card prototype set and the Series 2 4-card prototype set.

10. Harley Davidson Series 1 (Collect-A-Card, 1992) 3 prototype set.

11-13. Sandman (Skybox, 1994) 7-card silver foil border prototype set. This set was listed as in a tie with the Vertigo (Skybox, 1994) 6-card silver foil border prototype set and the Superman The Man of Steel Platinum Premium (Skybox, 1994) 4-card silver-border prototype set.

14. Terminator II (Impel, 1991) unnumbered promo.

15. Superman The Man of Steel Premium promo SW1.

16. Wings of Gold Series 1 (Eagle Trading Card Co., 1991) 18 prototype set.

17. Star Wars Galaxy Series 2 P3 (Topps, 1993).

18. X-Files Season 1 P1 (Topps, 1995).

I listed the SWG 2 P3 to show its position in the list.



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Originally posted by catskilleagle:
that "Collect!" article, "Collectors Most Wanted" from September 1996. It was an annotated list of the top 18 most wanted promo cards/sets.


Can you post the other 17 -- just the list, no annotations? I wonder how the list has held up.
 
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Thanks.

When the Impel T2 cards came out, I ended up with two of the promos. I went to the Philly show that year (the only time I ever did), and mostly hung out at Chris Benjamin's booth. I sold my extra T2 promo, for something like $2-3.
 
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One of these sold for something less than $999.99 as a Best Offer on July 30.

One graded PSA 9 Pop 2 sold for $2,250 on July 16.
 
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