Ok mabey I should ask this question.
Are these Inkworks SDCC sketch cards included in the Promo Encyclopedia?
If so what page # and how are they described?

No there are not included. Maybe some day they'll get in there as a note.

Hi Todd,

I think, if it's free, it's a promo. How is this one different from a Marvel Staff card or a Dark Horse signing card? Those were meant to be signed and the Dark Horse cards had the space for a sketch so some of the artists did start adding sketches by 1999. I think that enhances the value even if the money isn't that different. It was nice that the artist put in the extra time especially for a card the company was giving away. Now, I wish I had gone to that 2007 show.

Otherwise, I agree that I would rather have a promo, or any card not meant to be signed, to be left unsigned. Of course, the exception is if I decide to have a card signed by an artist and I have only cards not meant to be signed to bring. I can't prove it but I have two oversized promos that Ralph McQuarrie signed for me at a local show around 1999. Other people had artwork. All I could get on short notice were those two Star Wars Mastervisions promos from the Star Wars Galaxy Magazine. Those are for me. A handwriting expert should be able to back me up because they are two nice clean signatures.

Jess

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Originally posted by pcetodd:

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Originally posted by Raven:
Plus the modern card market is creating 1/1 promos and extremely limited promos right now, so lack of quantity or restricted distribution is no longer a good marker to use. Some of these promotional cards are barely available to anyone, which is an entirely different discussion.

I dont personally considered these 1/1 promos to be promotional. Might as well write a note in crayon on a piece of paper, mark it 1/1, and pass it off as a promo. Its about as desirable to me. No disrespect meant to those who produce or collect said 1/1 items, but it isn't promotional if it isn't available to more than a few people (let alone ONE person). Its a chase card and one designed to make money, not promote a product.

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Originally posted by catskilleagle:
Hi Todd,

I think, if it's free, it's a promo. How is this one different from a Marvel Staff card or a Dark Horse signing card?

I see it as different for one reason: DH Signing cards were given away as unsigned. Inkworks gave it away only after it had a sketch on it. If they gave them out blank, then you stood in line if you wanted it signed/sketched (like the DH cards ) it to me would absolutely fall under promo.

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Originally posted by pcetodd:
I see it as different for one reason: DH Signing cards were given away as unsigned. Inkworks gave it away only after it had a sketch on it. If they gave them out blank, then you stood in line if you wanted it signed/sketched (like the DH cards ) it to me would absolutely fall under promo.

But that is exactly why they are promos. the Inkworks SDCC sketch cards came with the sketch. It was not only part of the promotion, it was the best part of the promotion. To say that only the blank cardstock, if there were some left over, would qualify as the promo card means that you missed the promotion altogether and walked away with the trash.

I understand the logic but then it does say "sketch card" on the card. The whole point of the promotion was to give away the cards with sketches on them. It could also argued that any card left unsketched on was the unreleased version or an unfinished variant or prototype. If you consider the unreleased or unfinished card a promo, it follows that the released, finished version is a promo too and perhaps more so since that version was the one actively given away.

Yes, you could get the Dark Horse signing cards unsigned. Sometimes, they were just given out but I got mine signed when possible.

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Originally posted by pcetodd:

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Originally posted by catskilleagle:
Hi Todd,

I think, if it's free, it's a promo. How is this one different from a Marvel Staff card or a Dark Horse signing card?

I see it as different for one reason: DH Signing cards were given away as unsigned. Inkworks gave it away only after it had a sketch on it. If they gave them out blank, then you stood in line if you wanted it signed/sketched (like the DH cards ) it to me would absolutely fall under promo.

The sketch cards were not promos. The ability to go to the booth and get a sketch card was the promotion not the card itself.

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Originally posted by wolfie:
The sketch cards were not promos. The ability to go to the booth and get a sketch card was the promotion not the card itself.

I disagree.

The card I have very obviously promotes the release calendar for Inkworks in 2004.

It promotes upcoming cards, that's more than many cards that are product premiums.

Ed

Hi Ed,

Yeah, if that's not a promo, what is? What have I been collecting for over 20 years? Who am I? What am I?

I still have my 70's cards, Star Wars Widevision sets, and three Charlie's Angels cards from Mexico to cling to.

Jess

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Originally posted by Scifi Cards:

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Originally posted by wolfie:
The sketch cards were not promos. The ability to go to the booth and get a sketch card was the promotion not the card itself.

I disagree.

The card I have very obviously promotes the release calendar for Inkworks in 2004.

It promotes upcoming cards, that's more than many cards that are product premiums.

Ed

Yeah when i said the sketch cards were not promos what i actually meant was the sketch cards are promos.

Whilst looking for the Kratt's Creatures card to scan for David R I remembered that I have some of the Inkwork's sketch cards from 2005. I have three featuring Family Guy and 1 blank which I believe Todd will class as a promo but not the others so here it is:-

the front
[IMG:left][url=https://postimg.cc/jDCThFLM] [/ur[/IMG]

and the back

[IMG:left][url=https://postimg.cc/RW8BpLt4] [/url[/IMG]

regards

John