This has been my belief as well- 1200 total. But I don’t think there’s really any hard evidence (not sure how one would prove it..you could prove 1200 each easily by supplying a duplicate serial number). I agree on the rarity. Of course in that mega mass produced era, even /3600 isn’t super high. Some in the other thread were speculating maybe a bunch went internally to comic dealers and execs at the show who didn’t really understand them and who knows what they did with them- I have zero idea if that’s the case or not.
Here’s the list of observed serial numbers for the 3 panels: Panel A 761 895 955? (questioned, due to pic resolution) 988 1120
Panel B 534 590 607 664 681 704
Panel C 854 1041
So not one duplicate in this small sample, meaning 1200 total still very possible. Here the question though: if there were 1200 total, what is the rhyme or reason to the numbering in relation to the panels? That code has never been cracked. It’s obviously not first 400 are A, second 400 are B, third 400 are C. It’s also not sequential, like ABCABCABCABC. In fact it’s not clear what it could be at all..just random or something? That doesn’t make much sense. Perhaps this is one sign supporting maybe it was 1200 of each.
Also why every number being >500? That doesn’t make sense if these were random draws from 1-1200, chances of that are like .0009.
I may have been slightly high on the $500 number…but still these are probably $300-500 on avg. One did sell for as low as $108 back in May at auction on eBay, but perhaps people just didn’t see the listing.
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Originally posted by catskilleagle: While I can imagine there could be 1200 of each out there somewhere, I think it's 1200 total. More of them would've been for sale in the late 90's to 2000's if there had been 3600 available. I bought one at a show and sold it around 2005, I think. At the time, it was a rather rare item for sale. When they started increasing in value, more started appearing for sale but it hasn't been a flood.
I figure some collectors took the sheet out of the clear block to slip it in a binder page so it could be stored with the rest of the set. They didn't like anything that doesn't fit in a page. They're kicking themselves now that a sheet in the block can go for $
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August 03, 2025, 01:25 PM
David R
I have all 3 and an extra on 1 of them. I also have one sheet that someone removed from the plastic which was sold to me in the early 2000s. I can pull the 4 and tell you what the serial numbers are.
August 03, 2025, 06:21 PM
wolverine651
That is a fantastic collection, and yea if you have the SN’s that’d be great. I can add it to the database..trying to find any rhyme or reason to these numbers.
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Originally posted by David R: I have all 3 and an extra on 1 of them. I also have one sheet that someone removed from the plastic which was sold to me in the early 2000s. I can pull the 4 and tell you what the serial numbers are.
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August 05, 2025, 02:32 AM
catskilleagle
I see a standard-size Godzilla P1 (Inkworks, 1998) sold for $400 on 5-31-25.
August 05, 2025, 04:30 AM
catskilleagle
A Batman Six Flags uncut 4-card hologram sheet sold for $175 on 8-2-25. That's far and away the most I've seen that sell for. I'd have to hunt around through my notes but I think that was more of a $30-40 item for a long time. It seems to have come up for sale more often in recent years than it did 20 years ago but it's certainly not common. This message has been edited. Last edited by: catskilleagle,
August 05, 2025, 10:35 AM
David R
I will try to dig them out of storage within the next 2 weeks. Maybe we can even post scans of them here, if someone can please help me with that.
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Originally posted by wolverine651: That is a fantastic collection, and yea if you have the SN’s that’d be great. I can add it to the database..trying to find any rhyme or reason to these numbers.
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Originally posted by David R: I have all 3 and an extra on 1 of them. I also have one sheet that someone removed from the plastic which was sold to me in the early 2000s. I can pull the 4 and tell you what the serial numbers are.
August 05, 2025, 10:54 AM
David R
Sheet 854 on your list was on ebay back in June for $ 495.00. Says the auction ended
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Originally posted by wolverine651: This has been my belief as well- 1200 total. But I don’t think there’s really any hard evidence (not sure how one would prove it..you could prove 1200 each easily by supplying a duplicate serial number). I agree on the rarity. Of course in that mega mass produced era, even /3600 isn’t super high. Some in the other thread were speculating maybe a bunch went internally to comic dealers and execs at the show who didn’t really understand them and who knows what they did with them- I have zero idea if that’s the case or not.
Here’s the list of observed serial numbers for the 3 panels: Panel A 761 895 955? (questioned, due to pic resolution) 988 1120
Panel B 534 590 607 664 681 704
Panel C 854 1041
So not one duplicate in this small sample, meaning 1200 total still very possible. Here the question though: if there were 1200 total, what is the rhyme or reason to the numbering in relation to the panels? That code has never been cracked. It’s obviously not first 400 are A, second 400 are B, third 400 are C. It’s also not sequential, like ABCABCABCABC. In fact it’s not clear what it could be at all..just random or something? That doesn’t make much sense. Perhaps this is one sign supporting maybe it was 1200 of each.
Also why every number being >500? That doesn’t make sense if these were random draws from 1-1200, chances of that are like .0009.
I may have been slightly high on the $500 number…but still these are probably $300-500 on avg. One did sell for as low as $108 back in May at auction on eBay, but perhaps people just didn’t see the listing.
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Originally posted by catskilleagle: While I can imagine there could be 1200 of each out there somewhere, I think it's 1200 total. More of them would've been for sale in the late 90's to 2000's if there had been 3600 available. I bought one at a show and sold it around 2005, I think. At the time, it was a rather rare item for sale. When they started increasing in value, more started appearing for sale but it hasn't been a flood.
I figure some collectors took the sheet out of the clear block to slip it in a binder page so it could be stored with the rest of the set. They didn't like anything that doesn't fit in a page. They're kicking themselves now that a sheet in the block can go for $
August 05, 2025, 03:54 PM
wolverine651
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Originally posted by catskilleagle: A Batman Six Flags uncut 4-card hologram sheet sold for $175 on 8-2-25. That's far and away the most I've seen that sell for. I'd have to hunt around through my notes but I think that was more of a $30-40 item for a long time. It seems to have come up for sale more often in recent years than it did 20 years ago but it's certainly not common.
Seems like a strong sale. I wonder if the UD acquiring of the DC license has sparked some more interest in DC, even back to the 90s stuff.
Hologram sheets in general are very cool to see.
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Originally posted by David R: I will try to dig them out of storage within the next 2 weeks. Maybe we can even post scans of them here, if someone can please help me with that.
Sounds great- don’t go out of your way, but if you do find them, please post them amazing we only have those listed numbers so far…shows they don’t hit the market all that much.
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August 06, 2025, 01:58 AM
catskilleagle
I see another interesting completed listing on Ebay. It's a collection of 540 promos in a binder that sold for $176.13 with 1 bid on July 27. I looked through the provided pages and didn't see many big finds other than a Dragon Ball (Bird Studio, 1995) holochrome promo. It was going for well over $100 but I see only one recent sale of exactly $100 on July 13. There are two for sale right now between $45 (running auction) and about $80 with no takers so far so it seems interest has cooled on that one.
There are of course a lot of common promos and a few that might be worth $5 like the Mask: The Animated Series M-1 (Inkworks, 1996), the two Kiss (Cornerstone, 1997) promos, and the three Elvira ones. The Marvel Masterpeices 2 (Skybox, 1993) unnumbered "Hulk 2099" has gone for about $15 but you could also hunt around and still get one for a buck or two.
An Ultraverse Master Series P02 "Heater" promo (Skybox, 1994), which was a HWDC exclusive, is in there. I haven't seen one sell recently but it was a $10 card maybe 15-20 years ago.
One unusual card is a Pro Body Builders Anya/Lena card. If it's unnumbered on the back, it would be an something unlisted for Todd to add. That might be a $5 card.
I think it was a good buy for a collector who saw the lot as a chance to fill a few holes across several sets. It's a good buy for a dealer who goes to shows. He could try to push for $100 for the Dragon Ball to recoup most of his money and sell a lot of the other cards for a buck a piece over time. We can see some duplicates in there but a lot of cards are not shown. There might be more oddballs in the pile.
Someone also unloaded a once very common 9-card promo pack, "Desert Storm" (Pro Set, 1991), for $15. Maybe 25 years ago, I picked up a bunch of those for a buck each and slowly traded/sold them over the years. It's probably an outlier - buyer not aware that you could find one in a promo pack lot if you kept your eyes open - but it could be something to look at.
I've seen the rarer 10-card pack with the exclusive "Texas Stadium" header card sell for as little as $3 in recent years. Some sellers have still tried to get $15-25 for that one.
August 06, 2025, 07:16 PM
promoking
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Originally posted by promoking:
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Originally posted by catskilleagle: A Batman Six Flags uncut 4-card hologram sheet sold for $175 on 8-2-25. That's far and away the most I've seen that sell for. I'd have to hunt around through my notes but I think that was more of a $30-40 item for a long time. It seems to have come up for sale more often in recent years than it did 20 years ago but it's certainly not common.
I was the seller of that card. Just to clarify—mine was actually the only one that was listed on eBay in the past three years, at least to my knowledge. I’ve kept a close eye on it over time, and while it may have been a $30–$40 card 25 years ago, I haven’t seen another come up for sale in quite a while. The one I offered was in mint condition, although I rarely state that in a listing. I'd rather have a buyer be pleasantly surprised when the card is mint rather than "near mint or better" when it arrives. The person who bought it is a highly advanced long-time promo card collector. That likely played a role in his agreeing to the final price, as he isn't a neophyte and knows that rarity and especially condition hugely matter.
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August 14, 2025, 09:45 PM
catskilleagle
One of those Moon Mars 5-card proof sets with the silver foil fold-out box sold for $42.50 on 6-21-25. That was a good deal.
August 19, 2025, 02:48 AM
catskilleagle
A Wolverine From Then 'Til Now prism promo ("broken glass" variant) went for $148.95 on June 8. One of the prism variants went for the same amount on the same day.
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amazing we only have those listed numbers so far…shows they don’t hit the market all that much.