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April 26, 2019, 10:17 AM
David R
James Bond 25 (2020) News
More info on this

https://www.goodmorningamerica...ited-return-62648911
April 26, 2019, 10:51 AM
Raven
If you just do a quick read at that and look at the Craig picture, you'd think the big guy standing next to him is the new villain, Rami Malek. It isn't, that's the director. Malek was in New York when they were doing the Jamaica promotion. Christoph Waltz doesn't seem to have been there either.

So I found it underwhelming. I didn't like Waltz as Blofeld. I like him in general, but not in that part. Rami Malek is a short guy. It says 5'9, I don't think so. The idea of him smacking down with Craig, even with the age gap, is very unBond like. I know Bruce Lee was a short guy, but he was the underdog good guy, so it worked.

So I've got villain problems already. I also think that the plot, such as revealed, is instantly recognizable. Retired agent, living the good life with his wife, until he comes back because . . . Yes, we've all seen that one, in Her Majesty's Secret Service, in The Bourne Supremacy and it spells an early exit for Seydoux if it holds true.

It's going to be a long time before we see this one. I hope it's better than the GMA show.
April 26, 2019, 11:04 AM
Tommy C
I noticed that Craig says in this interview that this is probably his last one. However, he hasn't said that with 100 % certainty.

Back in the early 1980s, Roger Moore said several times that he was done, but each time he kept coming back. He said he was done after "Moonraker", but then he did "For Your Eyes Only." Then he said he was done in 1982, but he was persuaded back for "Octopussy." Finally, he just did one more, "A View to a Kill", in 1985.
May 14, 2019, 10:37 AM
Kennywood
‘Bond 25’ Suspends Shooting After Daniel Craig Injury

The difficult road to production on the latest James Bond film has hit another hurdle after shooting was reportedly suspended following an injury to star Daniel Craig. According to British newspaper The Sun, the actor fell while sprinting on the set in Jamaica last week and has been flown to the U.S. for X-rays, resulting in a suspension of the shoot.

The newspaper cited an unnamed source as saying that Craig was shooting one of his final scenes in Jamaica. “He was sprinting during filming when he slipped and fell quite awkwardly,” the source said. “He was in quite a lot of pain and was complaining about his ankle.”

While it is unknown how long the production might be delayed, The Sun reports that filming at London’s iconic Pinewood Studios, which had been scheduled to begin at the end of the week, has been canceled.

It is not the first time that Craig, who performs many of his own stunts, has been injured on the set of a Bond film. He had two teeth knocked out during his first stunt scene for his Bond debut in “Casino Royale”; sustained a number of injuries, including slicing off the tip of a finger and tearing a shoulder muscle, on “Quantum of Solace”; and injured his knee during a fight scene for his most recent outing as the super spy in 2015’s “Spectre.”

A potential production delay would be the latest setback for “Bond 25” following a troubled script process that saw original director Danny Boyle leave the project over creative differences with producers Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson, resulting in a delay to the start of production and a subsequent delay to the planned release, originally slated for October 2019. The release is currently scheduled for April 8, 2020.

Source: Variety.com

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May 14, 2019, 05:19 PM
mykdude
Although sprinting doesn't sound much like a stunt, the novelty of actors doing their own dangerous stunts has long worn off. No one cares.
May 14, 2019, 05:34 PM
Raven
Have you seen Craig lately, he's an OLD 51. He shouldn't be sprinting. It's not like Bond stunts are believable anyway.
May 16, 2019, 12:21 PM
Tommy C
According to an interview with the actress who plays Moneypenny, she said that she thinks that Daniel Craig MAY actually do another Bond film after this one, Bond 26, that this may not be his last outing. She said we'll see how this one goes, first, but if fans really want him to stay, maybe that will persuade him to return.
May 16, 2019, 01:28 PM
Hedgehog Witch
The whole thing about Bond is that it is a young man's role in terms of stunts/running, but needs someone with huge life experience, or believable that they've been in the job a long time, so not a 20-something actor. That means that a Bond has to be 40s-ish and beyond.
Roger Moore was 57, iirc, in his last Bond, and he never exactly looked like a spring chicken, ever. Big Grin
Maybe the next Bond should be someone a little bit younger. Richard Madden would get my vote. Smile
August 20, 2019, 02:50 PM
Tommy C
It now has a title

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/20...vie-title/index.html

Not a very good one, in my opinion !
September 30, 2019, 12:49 PM
chesspieceface
Fantastic director and a script polish from the gifted writer Phoebe Waller-Bridge (at Craig's request) makes me think the next one will be the best one ever.

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September 30, 2019, 02:17 PM
wolfie
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Originally posted by chesspieceface:

makes me think the next one will be the best one ever.



Steady now.

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September 30, 2019, 03:10 PM
chesspieceface
heh, well, I should qualify that by saying I only liked a few of the Connery/Moores and none since.

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September 30, 2019, 04:11 PM
Kevin F
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Originally posted by chesspieceface:
heh, well, I should qualify that by saying I only liked a few of the Connery/Moores and none since.
How about the original 'Casino Royale' starring David Niven, Peter Sellers, et al ? Big Grin

Definitely my favourite Smile
September 30, 2019, 07:25 PM
Raven
quote:
Originally posted by Kevin F:
How about the original 'Casino Royale' starring David Niven, Peter Sellers, et al ? Big Grin

Definitely my favourite Smile


They never count that spy comedy with Niven playing Sir Bond as being any part of the Bond series. Just as they don't count Never Say Never Again, which is certainly meant to be a Bond movie with Connery. I think they both didn't have the Producer pedigree, so they have been relegated to unofficial status and left out of any licensed cards, which is a shame.
October 01, 2019, 03:08 PM
Tommy C
For those unfamiliar with the history of the Bond films, here it is in a nutshell:

When the Bond film producers ("EON") purchased the rights to the Bond novels from Ian Fleming in 1961, they were able to obtain the rights to do all of the novels, except for "Casino Royale", which Fleming already sold off, and "Thunderball", whose movie adaptation rights were won by Kevin McClory in a lawsuit.

EON and McClory teamed up to do "Thunderball" as the fourth Bond movie in 1965, with the understanding that he could remake the film again after 10 years. Which is what he did, when he made "Never Say Never Again" in 1983. However, in the 2000s, after McClory died, EON bought all of the rights from his estate

"Casino Royale" was made as a parody film in 1967 by Columbia Pictures, as they knew that they could not compete with EON. Finally, in the 2000s, EON bought the movie rights from Columbia (now Sony) and made a serious, official Bond film of it in 2006.
October 03, 2019, 12:15 AM
Raven
So if EON bought up all of McClory's rights, why didn't we ever get a Never Say Never Again set, even as an insert? They would own the movie, just as they own all the others, and could have included it with the card license if they wanted to. No?

Too late of course, but besides Connery the better known cast members were Kim Basinger, Barbara Carrera, Klaus Marie Brandauer, Max von Sydon, Edward Fox, Rowan Atkinson, Bernie Casey RIP and Valerie Leon. Not too shabby. Big Grin
October 03, 2019, 03:08 PM
Tommy C
Probably because EON did not actually make "Never Say Never Again", unlike all of the other films. Plus it is a remake of EON's "Thunderball" with most of the same character names, and basically the same plot and locations

Connery made the film, in part, because he was bitter with EON, believing that EON owed him millions from the 6 movies he did with them. So he was sort of thumbing his nose at the producers, and they were very upset by that.
October 03, 2019, 06:40 PM
Raven
So did EON already use all of the original Fleming Bond novels for movies or were some skipped over?

Are the scripts now into all new material or are they adding parts of new material for the current Craig era, which is running an arc that keeps building on the last film?

Since Blofeld has popped up again, might we consider new Bond movies to be remakes or re-imaginings of films already made?

Why can't they just start a whole new series with a whole new spy? Oh wait, that was Bourne. Big Grin Last one with Damon was horrible. Shake Head
October 04, 2019, 04:35 PM
Tommy C
Raven, to answer your question:

Ian Fleming wrote 12 Bond novels and 9 short stories. EON made the 12 novels into movies between 1962 and 1979, and then "Casino Royale" in 2006.

The five 1980s Bond films were based on 7 of the short stories (2 of the films combined elements from 2 stories each), and the second Daniel Craig movie used the title "Quantum of Solace", 1 of the other stories, but didn't use anything from the story itself.

Since Fleming died in 1964, several other authors have written official Bond novels, none of which have been made into movies. Kingsley Amis did "Colonel Sun" in 1968; John Gardner did 14 novels between 1981 and 1996; Raymond Benson did 6 more between 1997 and 2002; finally, since 2008 five more novels have been released, by different authors.

So there are 38 official Bond novels, and 2 collections of short stories by Ian Fleming.

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October 04, 2019, 08:06 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Raven:
So if EON bought up all of McClory's rights, why didn't we ever get a Never Say Never Again set, even as an insert? They would own the movie, just as they own all the others, and could have included it with the card license if they wanted to. No?

Too late of course, but besides Connery the better known cast members were Kim Basinger, Barbara Carrera, Klaus Marie Brandauer, Max von Sydon, Edward Fox, Rowan Atkinson, Bernie Casey RIP and Valerie Leon. Not too shabby. Big Grin


They bought the rights to control the distribution of something they never wanted out there in the first place and as a preventive means against any future issues/remakes.

As TommyC said, Never Say Never Again was not made by EON and is not an 'official' Bond film. It can't be overstated how much it is the evil step-son of the series that EON did not want made and was a spite project of Connery and McClory released with two fingers up against Moore's Octopus*y in '83.

Connery had his axe to grind and he was the only selling point of his film. However when Moore's film won at the box office, it proved EON's point in the long running pay disputes with Connery: that despite his talents in the role, the actor was not bigger than the character.

Anyway, the film is horrible. Bad acting, awful score, cheap looking. I've seen it all the way through once and don't even consider it a Bond film, it's awful.