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March 12, 2019, 12:26 PM
Tommy C
Disney to Buy Most of 21st Century Fox ?
So the news is that Disney will officially take over the FOX movie studio (not the TV or news channels) as of March 20.

Does this mean that the 2 X-Men movies coming this year and any future Deadpools are now officially part of the Marvel Universe film series ?
March 20, 2019, 01:22 PM
Tommy C
Quote:

Disney now owns The Simpsons, the X-Men, Fantastic Four, Deadpool, Aliens, Predator, Die Hard, Avatar, Planet of the Apes, Home Alone, Kingsman, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The X-Files, 24, and The Family Guy—just to name a few.
March 20, 2019, 04:35 PM
mykdude
quote:
Originally posted by Tommy C:
Quote:

Disney now owns The Simpsons, the X-Men, Fantastic Four, Deadpool, Aliens, Predator, Die Hard, Avatar, Planet of the Apes, Home Alone, Kingsman, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The X-Files, 24, and The Family Guy—just to name a few.



Repeat after me....it is not a monopoly...it is not a monopoly....it is not a monopoly.
March 20, 2019, 06:00 PM
Tommy C
According to the article, while you will reportedly still see the famed 20th Century Fox logo at the beginning of films for the next few months, it may not last forever. The studio, which has been around since 1935, has now ceased to exist.

Now only 5 major U.S. film studios remain: Disney, Paramount, Universal, Sony aka Columbia Pictures, and Warner Bros.
March 21, 2019, 08:05 AM
mykdude
quote:
Originally posted by Tommy C:
Now only 5 major U.S. film studios remain: Disney, Paramount, Universal, Sony aka Columbia Pictures, and Warner Bros.


You would think that with these few remaining studios also buying up their own promotion and distribution groups that films would hit a profit margin much sooner and for less money than they use to.
March 21, 2019, 09:41 AM
Tommy C
Looking back on what the Top 10 and Top 20 films of 2018 were, domestically, had the merger occurred Jan 1, 2018, Disney would have had 6 of the Top 10 movies of last year, and 9 of the Top 20. Quite a monopoly !

The other studios didn't even come close. Of the Top 20, Universal had 2, Sony had 3, Paramount had 2, Warner Bros. had 4.
March 21, 2019, 10:43 AM
Raven
The whole movie system is changing and the studios are consolidating because of the rise of other networks like Netflix and Amazon and a bunch of want-to-bees to come. Youtube is getting involved. Also so much film and TV work is being independently produced that only looks for a distribution channel to get it seen.

A major studio is really only needed now when the cost is too high and the others have to pass.

Look for Disney to divvy up these acquired titles eventually. They won't want them all, so rights will be sold off on some. Some will not be continued. They will probably create certain subs for related titles and genres. Disney has been doing this for years already, they just have more of it now.
March 21, 2019, 11:01 AM
Tommy C
Look what happened with Metro-Goldwyn Mayer (MGM). They were one of the major studios from the 1930s to 1950s. By the 1960s, they had few hits, and they actually shut down around 1972, and didn't make movies for a few years.

They reopened in 1976 (barely) and just put out low budget fare for a few years, merged with United Artists in 1982, and spent the 1980s relying upon the "James Bond", "Rocky" and "Pink Panther" films to stay afloat.

Since the 1990s, they've released just a handful of movies a year, none of them huge hits, aside from James Bond.

I don't think there have been more than 15 films total this decade with the MGM lion on it.

Goes to show how major studios can really fall over the course of time ! From # 1 to nothing.

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March 24, 2019, 11:57 AM
WOMBLE
quote:
Originally posted by mykdude:
Repeat after me....it is not a monopoly...it is not a monopoly....it is not a monopoly.


It may not be a monopoly but it is definitely an 'EMPIRE'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47671266

I am surprised to see they make the biggest single proportion of their money from Disneyland/Disneyworld/Paris.
May 09, 2019, 10:48 AM
Tommy C
Looking at the list of the Top 10 and Top 20 highest grossing domestic films of all time, I noticed the following:

Now that Disney owns 20th Century Fox, it owns 8 of the Top 10 films, all except Titanic and Jurassic World.

It also owns 14 of the Top 20 films. Quite amazing ! Of the 6 that it does not own, Warner Bros. has 2, Universal has 3, and Paramount has 1.
May 09, 2019, 11:08 AM
Kennywood
Interesting bit of trivia: Zoe Saldana is in both of the top 2 highest grossing movies of all time:

  • Avatar
  • Avengers: Endgame

    That has to be a good feeling for her.

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    Lucy Van Pelt: How can you say someone is great who's never had his picture on bubblegum cards?
    May 09, 2019, 11:38 AM
    Tommy C
    Of the Top 20 domestic films of all time, 5 are Marvel Comics related, 5 are Star Wars movies, and 3 are Disney or Pixar films. Disney owns these, plus Avatar.

    The 6 that Disney does not own are Titanic, Jurassic World, the 2 Dark Knight films, Shrek 2 and E.T. Of those 6, three of them are way down the list, # 18, 19 and 20.
    November 08, 2019, 12:20 PM
    Tommy C
    I read that when Disney launches its Disney + on line streaming service soon, the "Simpsons" episodes from 1989-2019 will only be available for viewing there. So no more re-runs of the old ones on local, free TV.
    November 08, 2019, 05:07 PM
    Raven
    There are many long running shows that have been in extended syndication for years and years that are just going to disappear from free TV. Seinfeld is being taken by Netflix. The Big Bang Theory was bought by HBO. Disney + is consuming anything Disney, Marvel, Star Wars or Pixar. This is the road map now and that's just a few, eventually only CW shows will be on free TV because nobody wants them. Big Grin

    Seriously, it's sad and people should get together and try to stop it. It's not even that you have to pay for what you see, it's that you can only pay so many networks and buy so many packages and so many bundles.

    At the same time they are also choking off the DVDs, not simply with Blu-Ray discs, but by trying to float digital only products. The public, many of them under 30, don't understand that they are paying just to rent and the corporations will own all the rights and can dictate the terms of your use.

    This is not limited to media either. Facebook wants to have it's own currency and stockpilers of Bitcoin wanted to go on the Market until someone decided that they are not governments. Yet. In 25 years we won't recognize this place. Good thing we still own our cards. Wink
    November 08, 2019, 05:42 PM
    Tommy C
    And with regard to The Simpsons, they only released the first 20 seasons on DVD (through the 2008-2009 season) and there are no plans to release the most recent 10 years.

    So it's not like you can pop in the DVDs and watch the 2009-19 ones...
    November 11, 2019, 02:56 AM
    catskilleagle
    One of my friends is a huge Simpsons fan but he would say the last ten years aren't worth watching anyway.



    quote:
    Originally posted by Tommy C:
    And with regard to The Simpsons, they only released the first 20 seasons on DVD (through the 2008-2009 season) and there are no plans to release the most recent 10 years.

    So it's not like you can pop in the DVDs and watch the 2009-19 ones...

    November 11, 2019, 03:18 AM
    catskilleagle
    After going through the guide's 500 or whatever channels and not finding anything that I want to watch (remembering the Springsteen song when he had 57 of them) and "Seinfeld" is on, I watch that. I didn't watch "Big Bang Theory" with any regularity but I liked Bob Newhart's appearance. I heard the show had a lot of sci-fi people and scientists guesting on it.

    One thing I have noticed is that there are a few networks specializing in shows from the 60's and 70's. They even run shows that ran only one or two seasons like "Dan August" or "Banacek." As some of the more recent shows disappear as exclusives to particular networks, I think we'll see some more obscure 70's-90's shows fill the void. My youngest niece is getting a kick out of "Brady Bunch" these days.

    In another thread someone didn't know about that "UFO" show by Gerry Anderson. I didn't know about it either until just a few years ago. I watched a lot of TV when I was a kid. I had heard of "The Thunderbirds" and I watched "Captain Scarlett" (inserted in a local kid's afternoon show) but never saw "UFO." I read that there was a plan to bring it back but the next season was reconsidered and ended up being the first season of "Space 1999."



    quote:
    Originally posted by Raven:
    There are many long running shows that have been in extended syndication for years and years that are just going to disappear from free TV. Seinfeld is being taken by Netflix. The Big Bang Theory was bought by HBO. Disney + is consuming anything Disney, Marvel, Star Wars or Pixar. This is the road map now and that's just a few, eventually only CW shows will be on free TV because nobody wants them. Big Grin

    Seriously, it's sad and people should get together and try to stop it. It's not even that you have to pay for what you see, it's that you can only pay so many networks and buy so many packages and so many bundles.

    At the same time they are also choking off the DVDs, not simply with Blu-Ray discs, but by trying to float digital only products. The public, many of them under 30, don't understand that they are paying just to rent and the corporations will own all the rights and can dictate the terms of your use.

    This is not limited to media either. Facebook wants to have it's own currency and stockpilers of Bitcoin wanted to go on the Market until someone decided that they are not governments. Yet. In 25 years we won't recognize this place. Good thing we still own our cards. Wink

    November 11, 2019, 09:03 AM
    Kevin F
    quote:
    Originally posted by catskilleagle:
    In another thread someone didn't know about that "UFO" show by Gerry Anderson. I didn't know about it either until just a few years ago. I watched a lot of TV when I was a kid. I had heard of "The Thunderbirds" and I watched "Captain Scarlett" (inserted in a local kid's afternoon show) but never saw "UFO." I read that there was a plan to bring it back but the next season was reconsidered and ended up being the first season of "Space 1999."
    I wouldn't be surprised to see a whole bunch of old Gerry Anderson series turning up on BritBox here in the UK as ITV probably has the rights to show most if not all of them. The earliest one I was around to see was 'Four Feather Falls', though I do have a 'Torchy the Battery Boy' annual which preceded it. Then came 'Fireball XL5', 'Supercar' and 'Stingray' before things really took off with 'Thunderbirds' and 'Captain Scarlet'. The less asid about 'Joe 90' and 'The Secret Service' that then followed...the better Big Grin Then we had UFO which was excellent and 'Space 1999', which I never liked. It's enjoying a rerun on the Horror Channel, which I find quite approriate, right now. Things sort of fizzled out after that. 'Space Precinct' and 'Terrahawks' weren't in the same league. The CG 'revival of Captain Scarlet' a few years back was pretty good...but I am a little biased about that one Smile
    November 12, 2019, 01:16 AM
    catskilleagle
    I've never heard of a few of those shows. "UFO" might be on one of the cable channels now but I haven't seen it yet. We liked "Captain Scarlett." It had its own lingo and its own Cold War backdrop with female fighter pilots flying high cover. It was something totally different at the time from most kids' shows here.

    Yeah, the first season of "Space 1999" was pretty dull except for a couple of episodes. The second season was better. Maya was great character to add. I still remember the weird monster she shape-shifted into when they needed someone who could breathe chlorine gas. I'll admit it. I was falling in love with Catherine Schell too.



    quote:
    Originally posted by Kevin F:
    quote:
    Originally posted by catskilleagle:
    In another thread someone didn't know about that "UFO" show by Gerry Anderson. I didn't know about it either until just a few years ago. I watched a lot of TV when I was a kid. I had heard of "The Thunderbirds" and I watched "Captain Scarlett" (inserted in a local kid's afternoon show) but never saw "UFO." I read that there was a plan to bring it back but the next season was reconsidered and ended up being the first season of "Space 1999."
    I wouldn't be surprised to see a whole bunch of old Gerry Anderson series turning up on BritBox here in the UK as ITV probably has the rights to show most if not all of them. The earliest one I was around to see was 'Four Feather Falls', though I do have a 'Torchy the Battery Boy' annual which preceded it. Then came 'Fireball XL5', 'Supercar' and 'Stingray' before things really took off with 'Thunderbirds' and 'Captain Scarlet'. The less asid about 'Joe 90' and 'The Secret Service' that then followed...the better Big Grin Then we had UFO which was excellent and 'Space 1999', which I never liked. It's enjoying a rerun on the Horror Channel, which I find quite approriate, right now. Things sort of fizzled out after that. 'Space Precinct' and 'Terrahawks' weren't in the same league. The CG 'revival of Captain Scarlet' a few years back was pretty good...but I am a little biased about that one Smile

    November 12, 2019, 09:31 AM
    Tommy C
    I heard on the news that the Disney + service launched today.

    So you can watch all of the Disney, Star Wars, Pixar, etc. films from 1937 to present, for $ 6.99 a month, or whatever it is.

    Disney probably won't show "Song of the South" (1947), however, the sole Disney feature film never released on DVD in the U.S., due to its dated elements, which make many uncomfortable.