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Originally posted by Jake:
It'll be interesting to see what happens with all the Heroes sets throughout the year. With 3 sets being released (if they are all actually released in this year) reminds me of when the 1st 3 Lost sets were released.

I've only just begun collecting cards in the past 3 months. What happened with those Lost sets?

i cant wait.. i got two boxes locked up..

here in vancouver b.c. canada most of the distributors are already sold out.. of them before they even released..

i was able to get one for 50 and another for 60cnd

how much are you guys getting them for??
what are you aiming for??

Boxes and cases are mostly sold out everywhere. I expect when the set is released next week, those unopened boxes/cases value will rise even more.

I am absolutely stoked that this product is coming out next week finally!!! I locked up my 2 cases of this product in September. This is my first purchase of non-sports in any real quantity ( 1 box 2 Boxes DC Legacy and 1 Marvel Masterpieces). I have been keeping an eye on the sketches for this set and i am absolutely impressed. Amazing!

6 DAYS LEFT !! ahahahha

i wonder what i will get... ive quit non-sport for about 3 years.. and gone back to hockey and now i have gone back into the non-sports...

so everybody is excited about sketch cards.. has the value of sketch cards more then autographs now,. or is it just for the love and passion...

kind of thinking what to aim for.. and hope for.. ahaha...

Not really excited about the odds....looks like 4-5 costumes per case, 2-3 sketch cards, and 1-2 autographs

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ztaylork

Thanks for the graphic update on the pack odds. Does this mean any of this is out there yet?

Personally I don't mind the odds. I expected the value to run from the autos down to the costumes.

Best Always,
VinnyH

is that for real ?

WOW

the odds... are way different then what i would have thought..!!!!! but i guess hopefully my two boxes would be good

so does this mean that there ARE BOXES that MIGHT NOT have ANYTHING inside them ??????

Wow, the odds are far from expectations. Most of us believed that with increased sketch card #'s (from 3000 original projection to over 6000 ) that the sketch cards would be 4-5 case , auto.'s 2-3 and costume cards the case chase. Seems like they took the 4 costume pieces a LONG way with current odds having a case yield 4-5. Guess they were unable to secure a high number of auto.'s from any of the cast members and the sketch cards???? Am I alone on being confused by these odds

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Originally posted by rectz:

so does this mean that there ARE BOXES that MIGHT NOT have ANYTHING inside them ??????

Sure looks that way. It happened with Star Wars 30th, but hang-on, wasn't this set touted as 1 sketch or 1 auto or 1 costume per box? What happened to that?

Actually, the odds combine so that there are just about 8 "hits" per case on average.

True, Topps' collation problems might screw up several boxes like they did with SW30, but in general, there should be one memorabilia, autograph, or sketch card per box based on the odds.

From distributors recent solicitation for new cases and pre-orders:
2007 Topps HEROES Series 1 8 Box Case for $350
2 Case lot for $650
(Live 01/23)
SOLD OUT AT TOPPS !
24 Packs per Box...7 Cards per Pack...Entire first season inpremium 90-card series with multiple levels of collectible inserts: Dual-image foil cards, Sketch cards, Memorabilia, and Autographs
1 AUTO, SKETCH or MEMORABILIA in EVERY BOX !!!

So , what the heck happened - isn't this a serious misrepresentation of product ( I am speaking of Topps ofcourse as dealers were only relaying info given to them by Topps)

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Dual-image foil cards

I thought I saw a sell sheet that had the foil cards only in retail boxes. It isn't a bad thing to have them in hobby cases, I'm just confused.

Best to All,
VinnyH

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Originally posted by air1213:
From distributors recent solicitation for new cases and pre-orders:
2007 Topps HEROES Series 1 8 Box Case for $350
2 Case lot for $650
(Live 01/23)
SOLD OUT AT TOPPS !
24 Packs per Box...7 Cards per Pack...Entire first season inpremium 90-card series with multiple levels of collectible inserts: Dual-image foil cards, Sketch cards, Memorabilia, and Autographs
1 AUTO, SKETCH or MEMORABILIA in EVERY BOX !!!

So , what the heck happened - isn't this a serious misrepresentation of product ( I am speaking of Topps ofcourse as dealers were only relaying info given to them by Topps)

Per 8-box case, based on the odds:

24 packs/box x 8 boxes/case = 192 packs/case

Autograph (1:135 packs) = 192/135 = 1.422222
Sketch (1:86 packs) = 192/86 = 2.232558
Memorabilia (1:44 packs) = 192/44 = 4.363636

Total = 1.422222 + 2.232558 + 4.363636 = 8.018416

Am I'm glad that I could secure a case. Know I really have the chance of having an autograph.

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Originally posted by rectz:
so does this mean that there ARE BOXES that MIGHT NOT have ANYTHING inside them ??????

So, doing some fun math, there should be 24pk/box and 8 bx/case. That means a total of 192 packs. This would mean on rough average 1.4 autos, 2.2 sketches and 4.4 costumes, which equal 8 items per 8 boxes.

So playing some more with the numbers, I would say you will get 4 costumes, 2 sketches, 1 auto with a 61.3% chance of another auto, 21.5% chance of another sketch, and a 17.2% chance of another costume.

I guess we will have to wait until there are some case breaks until we see how things really shake out.

I would not necessarily mind getting a 5th costume card if it meant that I got the Claire patch varient along with the full set of the others.

Odds will be over the full run so you could get a case with all costumes. In my star wars 30th case odds were 4/4 but I got 1/7 nearly all autos.

I just busted through my 5 cases. I will not post any pictures or anything, but the Claire patch costume is the hardest to get (I did not pull one) followed by the Claire Costume, then the Hiro shirt/Issac Shirt.

I pulled 8/11 autos. Missing Adrian Pasdar, Noah Gray-Cabey, and of course Hayden Panettiere. Have an extra of Sendhil. It should also be known that Hiros signature is prob going to tick some people off, just a little mark really. Also, Milo did not sign his entire name like the sample on the Topps site, he only signed Milo. I am a little let down by this. I definetly did not do well with my cases. My sketches were pretty awful, I only pulled two or three that were really detailed, and although Color is NOT the norm (I know) I did not pull a single color sketch. All of my sketches are for trade and will go up on Ebay to go towards the three missing autos and the impossible patch card. I will get scans up after the weekened, I do not want to tick anyone off by breaking the street date.