Non-Sport Update's Card Talk
New (to me) Manufacturer.

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March 29, 2021, 11:22 AM
webjon
New (to me) Manufacturer.
Zobie has started a line of autographed trading cards:

https://shopzobie.com/collections/zobie-flipz

So far there have been 4 releases:

David Patrick Kelly ($99)
Shelley Duvall ($59.99)
Michael C Hall and Jennifer Carpenter ($69.99 or $159.99 for 3)
William Zabka and Martin Kove of Cobra Kai ($59 Kove, $79 Zabka, $129 for both)

I just ordered the Dexter set -- which consists of a Hall autograph, Carpenter autograph and dual autograph signed by both for $160. I was able to find a coupon code online.

I'm very happy to see another manufacturer enter this space and hope they do very well.
March 29, 2021, 11:36 AM
wolfie
I hope they do very well but for me these are not trading cards and it is not a trading card manufacturer, it is an autograph seller.

....or am i being harsh there?

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March 29, 2021, 11:43 AM
Raven
That's really interesting, thanks for pointing the site out.

I'm not sure if this one is more card making or in-person signing in nature. There are many small sites springing up now for contracting personal signings from various celebrities. Some are oddball people, but major stars are also being advertised. This seems to be the big idea because the money in autographs has gotten high enough to notice.

For Zobie, which I have not heard about, those signed cards seem to have sketch likenesses, rather than actual photos of the actors. Can't tell if they are on card autos. Also other merchandise is available for signings and pre-orders are being taken. So I don't think they are a card manufacturer just yet.

Just caught wolfie's post. I agree.
March 29, 2021, 12:08 PM
mykdude
I had seen the David Patrick Kelly on Ebay before and was wondering where it came from. Already have the Star Pics and Rittenhouse versions of him. You can tell they didn't have licensing for The Warriors. Big Grin

Picked up the Duvall, certainly a much cooler card than that ugly pop century metal junk. Very cool they are limited.

The Dexter and the Cobra Kai need better designs. Dexter image almost looks like he lived during the Revolutionary War.

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March 29, 2021, 12:25 PM
mykdude
quote:
Originally posted by Raven:
Can't tell if they are on card autos.


If you zoom in you can tell they are on card. I thought the Duvall was a sticker at first.
March 29, 2021, 01:38 PM
webjon
quote:
Originally posted by wolfie:
I hope they do very well but for me these are not trading cards and it is not a trading card manufacturer, it is an autograph seller.

....or am i being harsh there?


Personally I see them as cards, and since they make a product that I think is awesome I'm going to do everything I can to support them.

I reminds me of 258 West. I wish more people supported 258 West's cards because I really enjoyed them.

I did make some suggestions to Zobie -- i.e. come up with a consistent design for their cards, be more specific about the autograph guarantee on the back of the card, try to stick with photos, rethink the branding of Zobie Flipz as the term Flip is used to describe graded card holders, and 'Fliptz' -- aka 'Action Flipz' were a failed line from Artbox, etc.
March 29, 2021, 01:45 PM
webjon
quote:
Originally posted by mykdude:
The Dexter and the Cobra Kai need better designs. Dexter image almost looks like he lived during the Revolutionary War.


Agree with the design -- definitely room for improvement.
March 29, 2021, 05:25 PM
mykdude
I asked them if they were going to do a card for the upcoming Elisabeth Shue signing.

They said no.

And still I wait.............
April 08, 2021, 10:29 AM
webjon
quote:
Originally posted by mykdude:
I asked them if they were going to do a card for the upcoming Elisabeth Shue signing.

They said no.

And still I wait.............


Where did you ask that you got a response? I responded to an email they sent me, and contacted them through eBay and didn't get a response.
April 08, 2021, 12:44 PM
mykdude
quote:
Originally posted by webjon:
quote:
Originally posted by mykdude:
I asked them if they were going to do a card for the upcoming Elisabeth Shue signing.

They said no.

And still I wait.............


Where did you ask that you got a response? I responded to an email they sent me, and contacted them through eBay and didn't get a response.


customer service email on their website.
April 08, 2021, 10:12 PM
Bob Johnson
I agree that "Zobie Flipz" is a horrible name for a product. The cards are okay but could use some work.

I actually only heard about Zobie a few days ago. It looks like a limited version of Galaxy Con Live without the live part.
April 10, 2021, 07:11 AM
mykdude
quote:
Originally posted by wolfie:
I hope they do very well but for me these are not trading cards and it is not a trading card manufacturer, it is an autograph seller.

....or am i being harsh there?


Technically I agree with you but as a collector desperate for something other than Star Trek, Star Wars, MARVEL or Bond I say stop being so harsh! Twak Big Grin
April 10, 2021, 09:12 AM
wolfie
I'll be in the corner. Big Grin

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April 10, 2021, 11:27 PM
webjon
quote:
Originally posted by mykdude:

Technically I agree with you but as a collector desperate for something other than Star Trek, Star Wars, MARVEL or Bond I say stop being so harsh! Twak Big Grin


Yep -- especially with autographs everything has gotten really repetitive.
May 04, 2021, 09:27 AM
ravenheart
Interesting design idea with the whited-out hair on the Dexter ones. Pretty sure that would have looked better left alone.

Still, if I didn't already have both autographs (more than once each) from the Breygent sets, I'd have investigated these.

Nice to see someone new trying to bring something to the market.
May 04, 2021, 10:47 AM
Raven
quote:
Originally posted by ravenheart:
Interesting design idea with the whited-out hair on the Dexter ones. Pretty sure that would have looked better left alone.

Still, if I didn't already have both autographs (more than once each) from the Breygent sets, I'd have investigated these.

Nice to see someone new trying to bring something to the market.


Those two cards look like a combined photo and drawing. The whited out hair gives the appearance of powdered wigs in the Revolutionary War and I'm not getting passed that. Big Grin Both Carpenter and Hall have illegible signatures and the big red spot and red ink doesn't help.

Yes I'm for something new too, but the Dexter autograph cards on these two are just better looking and have the advantage of the title license. Carpenter only signed once in the first season. Hall signed every year I think and for awhile there you could find him for around $70.

I do like that you can get a Duvall autograph because she is not available, but again the drawn picture is not very good. To me Zobie needs better designs or better artists if they want to keep doing their own cards.
May 05, 2021, 09:42 AM
ravenheart
quote:
Originally posted by Raven:
Yes I'm for something new too, but the Dexter autograph cards on these two are just better looking and have the advantage of the title license. Carpenter only signed once in the first season. Hall signed every year I think and for awhile there you could find him for around $70.


She signed again for season 3, on a costume card.

Hall was definitely cheaper than that. I've got 5 or 6 of his (basically all except the various duals in the last couple of sets, and the SDCC season 3 one), and I'm sure I paid less than $70 in all cases. But I see that's not the case now Big Grin

Also noticed a dealer who used to always be very closely affiliated with Breygent Stateside has gotten hold of (been given?) left over blank autograph cards from the earlier sets, and left over signed stickers from the later ones, and put 2 and 2 together to make a "variant" Mad

And I agree, those are super poor versions of their signatures. Still, at those prices, there'll be a market for them amongst people who missed out on the earlier ones. Especially with the new season of the show around the corner.
May 05, 2021, 01:42 PM
Raven
quote:
Originally posted by ravenheart:
Also noticed a dealer who used to always be very closely affiliated with Breygent Stateside has gotten hold of (been given?) left over blank autograph cards from the earlier sets, and left over signed stickers from the later ones, and put 2 and 2 together to make a "variant" Mad


Personally I wouldn't consider that a variant because the card manufacturer never made it. Somebody else put it together from spare parts, although all may be separately genuine.

This is a trend that may deserve its own subject thread. On another board someone took 4 of Emilia Clarke's RA relic cards, sent them in to a personal signing, and she autographed them in gold. They came out really nice, but RA never made them. As a personal collection item I think its great, but other people are doing similar things to mass sell. Especially with sticker signatures or cuts, they are making cards that look deceptively legitmate, while never being officially made by the licensed manufacturer.

It's a problem that card collectors should be aware enough to research when they see an autograph or relic card that doesn't match the checklist.