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Originally posted by Logan:
The previous three TZ sets had 4 autographs per box, while this set only has 2, and a higher SRP. That's a lot of value missing per box/case. With no sketch cards in this release the only justification for keeping the price the same (or raising it) while cutting the autographs per box/case in half is the addition of the 50 Serling cuts.


Great point. With the last sets coming in 2002, 2005 and 2009, I forgot how many hits were in the boxes. When you have 4 autographs you are receiving back more than half the box value, even if they are all $10 a piece. So that makes for a big difference right there.
 
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While comic book prices, for instance, have gone up about 25% in the past 10 years, there was a short period from the mid 80's to the early 90's where they doubled in price (basiscally from $1 to $2). In the comic world, what happened during that era was a big expansion of mostly black and white titles from independent publishers that started stong but were kaput in only a couple of years. The correction resulted in the ability for the companies that still made comics to charge significantly more for them. While not completely analogous, something similar now has happened with non-sports card boxes. The prices on them have nearly doubled in a short period of time as a handful of companies are now the only game in town.

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Hard to compare current costs in those two markets. I think the average price of new comics depending on title, still run between $2.99 and $4.99, which is a far cry from even average non-sport card boxes. Also the box increases haven't really been in that short a period of time, it's been happening steadily for years.

I think the difference is the reduction of average priced issues. Everything is being billed as premium, limited product, so $95 is now normal and $160 is premium and over $200 is the new $100 barrier. But the cards inside have to be able to warrant these prices when you open the box and that is the thing that logically can't sustain these costs for long. Not unless the demand for the individual cards jump like crazy. An average box is still going to be average and you can't price a sealed box in expectation that the buyer might pull the best scarce hit in the product when that's unlikely to happen.

The Rod Serling Edition boxes are actually moderately priced and there is still a wide value gap if you get an average box with 2 limited (common) autos listing at $7.99. I'd take that $4.99 comic any day, if that's as much as I could lose. Big Grin
 
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This isn't going to be the last TZ set. On the Rittenhouse forums Steve said they have another set planned for next year.
 
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RA must have stockpiled a lot of autographs. Because their current titles are limited, I think the strategy is to lean heavily on dual autographs and inscription cards, not just for The Twilight Zone, but also for the upcoming Twin Peaks. They may also be throwing in more cuts of deceased stars.

I'm really not concerned with diluting market value as I am keeping anything I buy, so that is an argument for someone else. If it means getting the chance to pick up more TZ signed cards at reasonable prices down the line, it's fine by me. Smile
 
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I ended up selling the inscriptions (except Ron Howard who I needed for my set), the easy dual, and the Archive Box exclusive John Clarke for about $1,500 (closer to $1,400 after fees) which approaches half of what I paid for everything. I still have the dual Mumy/Leachman listed along with one last easy inscription which will eventually sell at which point I'll be about $1,500 in.

Not bad considering I have the Serling cut which seems to be worth close to that PLUS the binder, all of the regular base and chase, and all of the other autographs not listed above.

While my goal is still to have at least one card of every signer, I just couldn't justify holding onto that Clarke, when I could clear $550+ just for that one card, which I did. I'm down to about 5 signers or so, the most valuable of which would be a Cliff Robertson and the Clarke, of course.

Looking forward to the next set. I'm curious to see what new they can come up with for it.

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