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Will there be no Outlander Season 5 edition?

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June 27, 2021, 12:26 PM
Karsten
Will there be no Outlander Season 5 edition?
Will there be no Outlander Season 5 edition?
I always thought the series was so successful at Cryptozoic.
June 27, 2021, 12:35 PM
Raven
Cryptozoic is doing some internal restructuring, as some people have left, and I'm sure financial considerations are also being evaluated along all its product lines. They seem to be doing more toys and games than non-sport titles right now.

If they still have the Outlander license by the time they can get it together, I would think they would come back with one. The cards have been successful to collectors themselves. Whether that translated well to their bottom line only CZE knows.
June 27, 2021, 06:51 PM
Hedgehog Witch
I've wondered about this for a while. In the past a set has come out around the time of a new season, so they're filming Season 6 at the moment, and that's not due to be aired until 2022, so maybe CZE will coincide a S5 set then. But the longer it goes with no indication of another set, might mean it's not happening.
June 27, 2021, 07:40 PM
Logan
I hope they keep them going. If you're a collector and fan of the show those sets were really great.
September 10, 2021, 02:17 PM
Raven
Reported on Blowout that Outlander license either ended or was pulled, can't figure out which, but CZE will not be doing any more cards.
September 10, 2021, 04:22 PM
Tommy C
Did Crypto actually release any card sets at all in 2021 ? I recall the 3 "Crisis on Infinite Earths" promo cards in late 2020, but that is about it.

And now 3 new Middle Earth promos in NSU.
September 10, 2021, 04:58 PM
Hedgehog Witch
I had an email newsletter from CZE today and the only card set mentioned is the "Crisis..." one, but no actual date just 'Coming soon'. Most of the email was devoted to pretty ugly lumps of plastic for those tacky vinyl type of figures.(I'm not a fan of those Big Grin )
September 11, 2021, 10:11 AM
Raven
They also mention a few Kickstarter backed projects too, which to me means that they really don't have the funding to put out big licensed card properties on their own. I know they lost people in the card division, perhaps the whole crew, but only CZX Crisis Infinite Earths and CZX Middle Earth are still in production enough for there to be promos and some trade publicity. That's due for 2022, maybe.

It doesn't look good. Cryptozoic is following the familiar pattern of other card makers that just petered out of non-sport cards, while branching into other games or toys. Then you don't hear about them anymore.

Hope that won't be the case here, they made some nice sets. Cryptozoic is supposed to be represented at the next Philly card show, so maybe someone can ask them if they intend to expand past CZX and when those two titles will be ready. I don't know if ultra high end will be the answer long term if they don't buy licenses with mainstream demand.

Don't think those figures will keep them afloat either. Wink
September 13, 2021, 12:40 PM
Tommy C
Remember what happened with Tuff Stuff's Collect magazine ?

They started off focusing exclusively on cards, and then towards the end they were covering statues and action figures, I believe.

The magazine folded shortly there afterwards.
September 18, 2021, 01:12 PM
Hedgehog Witch
Others may know more of this than me, but I just saw a grovelling post on instagram from CZE about paying sketch artists. From the comments it sounds like artists produced and submitted the work and some haven't been paid for 13 months!
Plenty of excuses and the usual waffle, but it seems it was only the stink-up people caused on some social media that has got any response from CZE.

That doesn't sound particularly good for any company. That seems to fill the usual "struggling business" profile starting with not paying your contracts. It usually goes even more downhill after that. Hope I'm wrong.
September 19, 2021, 05:37 AM
Scifi Cards
Not defending CZE too much, but...

Many of these contracts specifically say no payment until the set releases.

Both CZX products are WAY behind schedule due to many factors.

But, I also understand that some of these go back to sets that have been released, and for that there is no excuse. But I thought the public plea was an odd choice for any company.

Ed

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September 19, 2021, 10:12 AM
Raven
CZE's Mea Culpa was a hoot. The best part, "Our team is small. We have one person processing hundreds of invoices . . ."

If its one person, do you get to call it a team? Big Grin

It stands to reason that the underlying problem is financial when the products have not been finished, the money has not come in from orders and the contracts can't be paid until money does come in. While its all bad signs, the fact that CZE has made a public response to artist complaints does indicate that at least for now they are trying to salvage the business. I hope they can.
October 08, 2021, 03:25 AM
jademaliburoad
Really hope too.
New NSU is featuring their new CZX middle earth cards (saw that when I checked the past issues of NSU).

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October 09, 2021, 02:26 PM
Batman
Cryptozoic has announced that Outlander Season 5 will be happening and the first promo will be available at the Philly Show next weekend!

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October 09, 2021, 03:09 PM
Bob Johnson
I've never seen Outlander but I'm happy for fans of the show and the cards that a Season 5 set is officially happening.