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I also worked on this set, did a few cards.


 
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Someone told me that it took him 6 boxes to make 1 base set and that he's still missing a bunch of the easy chase cards
 
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OK, here's a bit of news that people in the UK need to be made aware of. Topp's have just released a UK version of this product but there are a couple of significant differences between it and the one that was released in the States.

First off, the set had been retitled to simply:

Star Wars Perspectives

The 'Chrome' part has been dropped. But the main difference is the box content which has changed significantly. While there are still 24 packs per box, 6 cards per pack and 12 boxes per case there is only One Hit per box. The ratios stated on the individual packs are as follows:

Medallion Cards: 1:24
Autograph Cards: 1:48
Printing Plate Redemption Cards: 1:360


This suggests that every box guarantees you a medallion card, but some boxes will contain 2 hits. Each case should contain 6 autograph cards with a high possibility of a printing plate redemption. Sketch cards don't even get a mention, so it looks like they are not included in this version of the release.

The reason I know all this is because I ordered two cases of ST Chrome from a UK shop at the start of the week that arrived today. I opened the first case, saw the different wording on the boxes and the '1 Hit per box' logo/label and immediately called the shop. He has discovered the same problem and was investigating it. He did open one of the boxes himself which is where the information on the packs about insert ratios came from. He had been misled by his supplier and is now in the process of finding out the process for getting a refund as the product is not as described.

So be aware that the Star Wars Perspectives Boxes in/from the UK are not a good buy Frown
 
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thanks for passing that on i nearly got a case. was the base set split better ie 1 per box ?

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thanks for passing that on i nearly got a case. was the base set split better ie 1 per box ?
I have no idea, I only got as far as opening the lid of my first case before contacting the seller to discuss the problem and request a refund. I'm just waiting for him to get back to me on how I go about returning the two cases so I can get my money back. Under DSRs, these are 'not as described' as stated as my invoice so I will not be opening them any further to examine the contents.
 
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I wonder if the base set is different in any way, are the boxes cheaper than the American ones, if so there should be cheaper base sets around.

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I wonder if the base set is different in any way, are the boxes cheaper than the American ones, if so there should be cheaper base sets around.
No idea about the base set, but the boxes are £69.99p inc postage each off eBay or £59.99p plus postage each if bought direct. So around the same price as the US ones if you could still find them at the basic retail price.
 
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On this set, I just decided to get the Minimaster 250 card set for $145 delivered, the cost of one box, and to then just be done with it. That includes the 100 card base set, the 100 card Refractor base set, and the five different 10 card insert sets.

It would be difficult to make that set from even 3 or 4 boxes of the card, and by then, you're talking $500+ so this seems the way to go, but I hope this isn't the new normal.

I don't care for Relic/Costume cards in general, especially manufactured ones like this product has. Star Wars sketches, despite the amazing work that graces some of them (another hats off to Roy Cover for his work shown above, wow!), lost their novelty to me long ago, and the numbered parallel sets are pretty much pointless when the regular cards are themselves quite limited.

That pretty much leaves autographs as the only "hit" I'm interested in from this series, but at $140+ for a box that might not even have one, that's not a risk I can take, meaning this will likely be the first Star Wars set since the brand was re-launched in 1993 that I won't be buying at least one sealed box of. Oh well.

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I wonder if the base set is different in any way, are the boxes cheaper than the American ones, if so there should be cheaper base sets around.


It appears that the UK version is a more traditional cardstock, which is why it does not carry the Chrome name...it isn't a chrome product.

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While obviously not as ornate in appearance, I would still welcome a set of these cards on flat stock, and since that version will be a UK issue in an edition that pretty much has to be more limited than the Chrome release was, this could be a hit even in this somewhat diminished configuration, autograph and sketch cards-wise.

That the cards themselves are so different than the others it could be a selling point for them, especially if orders are lower since the cards aren't perceived to be as loaded as the US version. Hopefully, a few UK dealers will go in on this and make available the minimaster with the 100 base cards plus whatever normal inserts are issued.

This is not unique. There is a Topps Ireland version of the original 1990 Simpsons card set that here in America was published on drab grey card stock, but in the UK had white card stock that made them look a lot better. Also far more limited in production numbers, those sets are worth multiples of the US counterpart.

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That's really interesting and I wonder why Topps decided not to give the UK the chrome version.

It does sound as though the UK boxes, with fewer hits and a somewhat less attractive look, have been short changed. You could make the argument that they may be worth more in the long run because fewer were produced, but more limited product doesn't necessarily translate to higher prices unless the demand is there. Why would there be more demand, or even the same demand, for a less attractive set? Roll Eyes

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I know a lot of collectors will likely be suffering Star Wars trading card burnout, nonetheless I am surprised there is not a bit more chatter about this one given the contents of this set.

How many years has it been since we have had on card Star Wars autograph cards?!? These are some of the best Star Wars autos I have seen in years. I would love to see the regular (non gold/refractor) autos in person, not sure how the foil trim at the top edges of the autos will look IRL. It's the only think stopping me getting a James Earl Jones...

Strangely, the UK version has the same list of signers but the autos are on stickers - what's that all about???
 
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That's really interesting and I wonder why Topps decided not to give the UK the chrome version.

It does sound as though the UK boxes, with fewer hits and a somewhat less attractive look, have been short changed. You could make the argument that they may be worth more in the long run because fewer were produced, but more limited product doesn't necessarily translate to higher prices unless the demand is there. Why would there be more demand, or even the same demand, for a less attractive set? Roll Eyes

There are plenty of 1/1 cards out there that no one wants. Wink


I can see this to a point, but to me, the UK autographs are inferior because of the stickers. I'll take the more plentiful on-card versions. However, there is at least one UK-only autograph that isn't in the Chrome set. I don't think she's been in any other sets thus far either.

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That's really interesting and I wonder why Topps decided not to give the UK the chrome version.

It does sound as though the UK boxes, with fewer hits and a somewhat less attractive look, have been short changed. You could make the argument that they may be worth more in the long run because fewer were produced, but more limited product doesn't necessarily translate to higher prices unless the demand is there. Why would there be more demand, or even the same demand, for a less attractive set? Roll Eyes

There are plenty of 1/1 cards out there that no one wants. Wink


I can see this to a point, but to me, the UK autographs are inferior because of the stickers. I'll take the more plentiful on-card versions. However, there is at least one UK-only autograph that isn't in the Chrome set. I don't think she's been in any other sets thus far either.


I agree, and "inferior" is the polite way to put it. Which auto card is UK only? I've missed that one.
 
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How many years has it been since we have had on card Star Wars autograph cards?!? These are some of the best Star Wars autos I have seen in years. I would love to see the regular (non gold/refractor) autos in person, not sure how the foil trim at the top edges of the autos will look IRL. It's the only think stopping me getting a James Earl Jones...

Strangely, the UK version has the same list of signers but the autos are on stickers - what's that all about???


The channels have been kept open for on-card autos with the sketchagraphs which have been appearing in the Star Wars Galaxy sets the last few years. There were no stickers on those.
It is nice to see on-card autographs on photo cards again, though.

As for the value of the cards, I would consider a base set of the UK to have the same value as the US set. The UK cards won't look as nice, but being printed in lesser quantity will create more demand for them which should be an equalizer.

As for the autographs, clearly collectors prefer on-card autographs, but exclusive signers in the UK edition muddies that up a bit. Autograph specialists will want any of those, no matter how much they may abhor stickers autographs, and hence demand is increased.

I just got my 250 card Chrome minimaster the other day (for the cost of a box, basically) and it's a nice set, but how can it be that the Rebel Propaganda chase set can sell for about $15 while the Empire Propaganda set of goes for $50+? The reason is that Empire set are found only one in each $140 per box, so it's a tough to make, especially a few boxes at a time. Collectors with their purchases have decided it is 3-4 times more valuable than the Rebel set. But is it 3-4 times better in content/quality? No way in heck. Both are 10 card sets with Russell Walks art using the exact same technology.

The value of these instead are determined purely by Topps insertion ratios of one normal insert set relative to another, and not by what is on them. In the long term, the cream rises to the top and content rich cards gain value while lesser material loses value, but on current issues, the value of cards is pretty much determined by the per pack odds.

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How many years has it been since we have had on card Star Wars autograph cards?!? These are some of the best Star Wars autos I have seen in years. I would love to see the regular (non gold/refractor) autos in person, not sure how the foil trim at the top edges of the autos will look IRL. It's the only think stopping me getting a James Earl Jones...

Strangely, the UK version has the same list of signers but the autos are on stickers - what's that all about???


The channels have been kept open for on-card autos with the sketchagraphs which have been appearing in the Star Wars Galaxy sets the last few years. There were no stickers on those.
It is nice to see on-card autographs on photo cards again, though.

As for the value of the cards, I would consider a base set of the UK to have the same value as the US set. The UK cards won't look as nice, but being printed in lesser quantity will create more demand for them which should be an equalizer.

As for the autographs, clearly collectors prefer on-card autographs, but exclusive signers in the UK edition muddies that up a bit. Autograph specialists will want any of those, no matter how much they may abhor stickers autographs, and hence demand is increased.

I just got my 250 card Chrome minimaster the other day (for the cost of a box, basically) and it's a nice set, but how can it be that the Rebel Propaganda chase set can sell for about $15 while the Empire Propaganda set of goes for $50+? The reason is that Empire set are found only one in each $140 per box, so it's a tough to make, especially a few boxes at a time. Collectors with their purchases have decided it is 3-4 times more valuable than the Rebel set. But is it 3-4 times better in content/quality? No way in heck. Both are 10 card sets with Russell Walks art using the exact same technology.

The value of these instead are determined purely by Topps insertion ratios of one normal insert set relative to another, and not by what is on them. In the long term, the cream rises to the top and content rich cards gain value while lesser material loses value, but on current issues, the value of cards is pretty much determined by the per pack odds.


But isn't that always the case. Parallels being one of the best examples of not really getting any more for your money but still having to pay for it.
 
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Parallels are an odd breed. When they first popped up in non-sports, basically the early 90's different colored foil inserts from Fleer/Skybox Marvel cards, I thought they were really silly, since the cards were essentially the same. I would usually just get rid of them, and now, some of those parallels are most valuable cards from that era.

With Topps Marvel Legends from 2001, you would think the sealed Hobby boxes would be far more valuable than the retail boxes of the same since most of the sketches were in the hobby boxes, but that's not true. The retail boxes have one base foil parallel card per pack, exclusive to retail, and that helps keep those retail boxes nearly as valuable as the hobby boxes, a rarity.

For the 2007 Upper Deck relaunch of Marvel Masterpieces, there were 3 different version of the base cards. The regular version you'd get about three 90 card sets per box. The foil surface versions took 3 boxes to make one set, since there were 30 of those per box. The Gold foil version took 15 boxes to make one set since those were found only 6 per box. Obviously, the gold foil version is the most valuable of the three, but the much easier to make foil version is far and away the best looking version. If I could only have one set, it would be the foil set.

As for the parallels in Chrome Perspectives, they are only one driver of the set's popularity. The sketches, autographs, and plates would've sold the set without them, but they are a nice extra, but once again, the best looking version of the base cards aren't the fancy numbered ones, but rather the one per pack simple refractor version, and that set can be had for about the cost of 2 regular base sets.

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I agree, and "inferior" is the polite way to put it. Which auto card is UK only? I've missed that one.


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Probably just a typo from Ryan, but her name is actually "Leesub" as opposed to "Leesus". She was in the cantina scene in the original Star Wars.

She actually signed for the "Star Wars Illustrated" sketchagraph series which were on-card autographs, but they might've gotten the stickers they used in the UK Perspectives set from her at that time.

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Probably just a typo from Ryan, but her name is actually "Leesub" as opposed to "Leesus". She was in the cantina scene in the original Star Wars.

She actually signed for the "Star Wars Illustrated" sketchagraph series which were on-card autographs, but they might've gotten the stickers they used in the UK Perspectives set from her at that time.


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