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Looks like they got lost in transit on the way back to the US and were sold through an auction of unclaimed goods.

According to Cryptozoic, they're not authorized of an official part of the set.

http://www.beckett.com/news/un...-autographs-surface/

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Posts: 1104 | Location: Nanaimo, BC | Registered: November 17, 2001Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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So this is something that pertains to the UK postal laws then and I guess if CZE did not follow through and make a proper claim, perhaps the package legally sells as abandoned property. Somehow I find it hard to believe that no one in the Royal Mail could figure out who it belonged to though. Roll Eyes

Anyway, if no one is going to stop the seller because of murky ownership, I must say that this will probably be a hot card for those completing the set. Authorized or unauthorized, as long as the sale is not illegal and the autograph is genuine, I would consider it part of the set if I wanted the complete title. That's just my opinion and it would depend on the legality of it because I do not support buying counterfeit cards. This would really just be a very special circumstance, assuming that there is not more coming on this story that changes it all again. Wink
 
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Somehow I find it hard to believe that no one in the Royal Mail could figure out who it belonged to though.


If you lived here, you wouldn't be remotely surprised.

Like a lot of companies, RM are outstanding when everything goes right, and useless when it doesn't. "Undeliverable" could mean all kinds of things.

Glad to see everything appears to be as I thought. I would expect the signatures to be genuine, because if the cards had gone missing on route to Tim to be signed, Crypto would have said so, and would have likely sent Tim a new batch to be signed. The fact they haven't means they went missing on their way back to Crypto.
 
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Somehow I find it hard to believe that no one in the Royal Mail could figure out who it belonged to though.


If you lived here, you wouldn't be remotely surprised.

Like a lot of companies, RM are outstanding when everything goes right, and useless when it doesn't. "Undeliverable" could mean all kinds of things.


Yes, but even if you don't know Cryptozoic because its international, even if no one in Royal Mail ever collected a trading card, they are still hand signed by a fairly well known British actor. Wouldn't the package at the very least go back to McInnery if it could not be delivered?

Or maybe they did notify him and no one came to pick it up and CZE didn't inquire after the missing cards until the box was already auctioned off as unclaimed?

It's pretty funny how certified autograph cards continue to find new ways to be screwed up despite all the practice. The best and safest method was always to have the signing performed in the presence of the manufacturer's representative and the cards were turned over there and then. However it is cheaper and easier to use the honor system and the post office, so strange stuff happens. Big Grin
 
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They would only be returned to Tim if he filled in a senders address on the package - most people don't bother to do this.

They also won't have opened it, so they don't know it contained signed cards. It's just a box to them.
 
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Once I read the statement I thought HEY! and purchased one of the £9.99 cards. For whatever reason the seller got them legally so it's a fair purchase - plus Captain Darling was SUPERB. It is of course possible that the cards were in a box and had brown paper wrapped around with address and sender adress on and the wrapping has got destroyed just leaving a box. Companies all around the world (incl USA) sell off unclaimed items left on trains, unclaimed luggage at airports, items handed into the police and storage containers that are unpaid. Individuals make a living out of buying up these items (and numerous TV companies make money showing us them doing it Big Grin).
 
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Once I read the statement I thought HEY! and purchased one of the £9.99 cards. For whatever reason the seller got them legally so it's a fair purchase - plus Captain Darling was SUPERB.


Lord Percy Percy for the first two, please.

Blackadder doesn't get that much recognition over here, you hear more about Fawlty Towers and Monty Python, but it was way longer than the Fawlty and way better than Monty. For a very funny show, I don't think people realized how dark and cynical Blackadder really was. That's hard to do.

I've got the whole run plus stand alones on VHS. For some reason I never upgraded to DVD, but I guess I should. Good reason to watch it all again. Smile

For years they have been talking about a new series, I believe all the main actors are still living. You would think they could have come back one more time, just considering the popularity in the UK alone.
 
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For years they have been talking about a new series, I believe all the main actors are still living. You would think they could have come back one more time, just considering the popularity in the UK alone.


They're still talking about it. They have done the one comeback since the original run of four series, but that was... what, 17 years ago now?

In general though, resurrecting old comedies isn't looked upon very kindly. People always assume it won't be as good as it used to be. They're usually right, but not always.
 
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Just noticed the prices have now doubled on those Tim McInnerny autos.
 
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Just noticed the prices have now doubled on those Tim McInnerny autos.


When it's all said and done that seller is going to make a pretty penny on those. It is a shame though that they didn't make it back to Cryptozoic to get pack-inserted and become "official". Wouldn't stop me from buying one though if I was putting the set together.
 
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