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1. I've noticed that there isn't as much interest in error cards now that there are 1/1 sketches and other extremely rare single items. My old theory was that collectors got bored when they had a "complete" set and chased after misprints as a way to satisfy the urge, and to claim true master sets.

2. That ST Generations promo was so rare because Skybox *tried* to send 10,000, but they couldn't find New Zealand.

3. btlfannz should be careful about using the term "rabid" when there's a wolfie in the house.
 
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2. That ST Generations promo was so rare because Skybox *tried* to send 10,000, but they couldn't find New Zealand.

3. btlfannz should be careful about using the term "rabid" when there's a wolfie in the house.

Jeff, if they couldn't find New Zealand they should have just asked any American. A recent survey found that although 63% had no idea where New Zealand was about 22% was sure it was an island off the coast of Florida.
....and another thing, my four legged wolfie is a fully qualified trade card security system
The two legged version on this forum would have my collection cherry picked and flicked off on the local market in 11.7 seconds.

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3. btlfannz should be careful about using the term "rabid" when there's a wolfie in the house.


....and another thing, my four legged wolfie is a fully qualified trade card security system
The two legged version on this forum would have my collection cherry picked and flicked off on the local market in 11.7 seconds.[/QUOTE]

That can't be true, I don't have a local market. Big Grin

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Regarding the Star Trek NZ promo, one sold yesterday on ebay for $ 120 !


I sold one once (on consignment for $1400. I bought mine in an NSU phone auction back in the day for $75 Smile


Ahhh the notorious (and very secretive) ST NZ promo. I have posted on this subject a year or so ago but just for the record here's the facts again. I have been a solid (read rabid) collector since about 1985. Since then I have been part of a number of collector's interest groups, I have worked as an accountant for a card manufacturer (Card Crazy) and I would know every collector of consequence in New Zealand (we are only a small country!!).
For all of that, I have never even seen this card let alone owned one and further no one that I know in the whole of New3 Zealand has ever owned one.
Purportedly 10,000 were sent to NZ but unless customs destroyed 9,990 of them then someone is telling porkies. Trust me, there is absolutely no way in the world such a number of promos could be circulating in this country without my knowledge. There are a few theories among my circle of collector friends ranging from someone at Skybox didn't send them but secreted them away somewhere for later easing onto the market one at a time to the idea that someone got the numbers wrong and just 10 (or a 100) were printed. Whatever, it really is an enigma that only Skybox could explain.



About 2 or 3 of those NZ promos have appeared on ebay within the past year, including the one that sold for $ 120 the other day
 
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I found an interesting auction on ebay a few months ago, the promo card wrapped with an advert for the movie from NZ. So, it seems they at least made it out of Skybox hands Smile

I bid on it a little bit, but as I have the promo,I didn't pursue it too far just to get it *still in package*.


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This is all presumption, but I now think CI Godzilla (2006) had at least 2 print runs with some changes mid runs. I found an old post: http://nonsportupdate.infopop....821083291#8821083291
Think there ware other variations.
Still one of my favorite sets in past 10 years and sometimes embarrassed with how many godzilla sketches I've hoarded and still buy and look for.
I'm now thinking that I thought the first print runs were also on different stock than last run; but something to look over again.
I heard that CI first released as shrink wrapped sets at either a Comicon and/or a godzilla/sci-fi con. They then released in boxes. My assumption is the overprints from the shrink wrapped sets got added to boxed packs resulting in the collation issues; but don't think will ever know the full story.
There was an interesting thread over at the Network54 site on vintage non-sports that I happened to come across last week when doing some research on the T38 set. It's about T38 errors and appropriate for this thread. http://www.network54.com/Forum...%26quot%3B+Revisited

(BTW, if want to get to know more about vintage cards, great site to explore.)
 
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I remember the weirdness with those Godzilla boxes. I bought a couple not too long after they came out and had some of the packs filled with the same base card, and the foil duplication within the box, and I do remember there was differences in card stock, even within the same box.

When I'd sorted my boxes out, I needed a few cards to finish even one set, so I wrote to Comic Images, who did get back to me quickly, but only to let me know they didn't have any singles left, and sorry about that.

Even so, I was happy with what I got, especially the sketches which were instant keepers.

I remember when they were selling those factory sets with the sketch on top, and a lot of those had sketches by no less than Bob Eggleton, who is one of the masters of giant monster art.

Collation issues aside, that was a fine set, one of Comic Images very best.

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If I remember correctly there was also one Silver Surfer base card with no number which was later corrected.


Since this topic has already came up, I am curious whether this hologram card was corrected?

I have several cards of this and they all have the floating left eye when viewed from the side. The left eye doesn't move together with the whole image when tilted.



I'm just upping my post. I am collecting holograms so I am curious whether this card was ever corrected. Anyone?
 
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Spartacus Blood and Sand card #1 - error and corrected versions available
 
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Since this topic has already came up, I am curious whether this hologram card was corrected?

I have several cards of this and they all have the floating left eye when viewed from the side. The left eye doesn't move together with the whole image when tilted.



I'm just upping my post. I am collecting holograms so I am curious whether this card was ever corrected. Anyone?[/QUOTE]

I have the Yellow/Gold version of this card and on that the eye moves with the rest of the picture, so maybe it's only the green version that has that weird effect. I don't have a green one to check, although my other 3 holograms from this set are all the green versions.

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I have the Yellow/Gold version of this card and on that the eye moves with the rest of the picture, so maybe it's only the green version that has that weird effect. I don't have a green one to check, although my other 3 holograms from this set are all the green versions.

You sure? I guess my collection of this set isn't complete yet.
I have all tints of this set except the red of this card. All tints of this card that I have have floating left eye and forehead when viewed from the left.

You can see from this angle that the left eye and forehead are somehow stuck. (The dark parts are the left eye and forehead)

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I thought of another error set .The 1992 TNG Inaugural Edition set had 4 hologram cards that were accidently given the backs form the common set. 31 32 33 34. This was corrected at some point to H1 H2 H3 H4.

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As a retailer I've had quite a few people over the years trading misprint and error cards in, explaining to me the error, and how rare (and therefore valuable) the card must be. My answer was always the same.
In all the years I've been selling cards I've never met anyone who collects error cards who would pay the price you expect for them.
So, is there anyone out there who does?

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In all the years I've been selling cards I've never met anyone who collects error cards who would pay the price you expect for them.
So, is there anyone out there who does?

In my view, they are not intentionally produced to have error in them, so some of them are definitely scarce. I have a fancy for collecting any error productions if I came across one, just not those variants that were known and have been corrected. I collect cards that somehow have split prints intended for two cards, or those that lacked foil or some print on them. I don't pay more than 100% of their official value though and this is not specifically just with cards. And I don't particularly look for one.

My most recent addition to my error collection is this coin I acquired a few months ago.

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There was also the "no pug" card in the "Men in Black" set by Inkworks. It was supposed to show a photo of the little dog but there was no dog. I think Inkworks did correct it later.



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As I was reading the thread on variant cards the other day, I realized that we never talk about error cards. Then it struck me that non-sport really doesn't have error cards today and possibly never did. Big Grin

Now when I say error cards I am not talking about cards that have errors, like wrong photos or misspelled words. I mean cards that had corrected versions printed after an error card was spotted. This was a somewhat usual occurance in sportscards in the day. A premium was then attached to whichever card was deemed to be the shorter printrun. It might be that the error card was priced higher or the corrected version was priced higher. Some cards actually had more than two versions. Anyone remember the Billy Ripken FF bat handle card? I think there were 4 corrections on that one!

Anyway, with the one shot printings that are now done on non-sport cards I don't think any card can be corrected, hence no real error cards. They will all be the same regardless.

My question is, was there ever an error card(s) in a non-sport set that got a corrected version?
 
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In the Super Stars Music cards by Pro Set (1991) there was an error on the John Lennon card. Pro set included the first series cards in the second series. They differentiated them by changing the location of the logo. On the John Lennon card there was a reverse image. So on the series 1 #15 card his left arm is raised and on the series 2 card #15 his right arm is raised.
 
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The set is laden with that and other errors, some would say purposely so as the owner of the company, Lud Denny, really knew how to appeal to the collector mentality of the day.

ProSet, the company who made them, was only in business from 1989 through 1993 or so, but left behind some nice cards, mostly football cards, and plenty of errors and variations. The football set was proclaimed to be a "living" set which allowed updates and reissues of the cards through the season, a smart way to be able to reprint as much as you wanted, and print they did. The presses ran on all of their sets pretty much 'til the bitter end...

The Musicards set was reprinted a few times to capitalize on the popularity of them resulting in reverse negatives variations like the Lennon, sure, but lots more besides including entirely different cards sharing the same number. They were a lot of fun to collect. I have the two US sets with some of the errors/variations and the UK set which had some repeats from the US set, but was mostly different and including, reasonably, a lot more British acts.

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Yes, the days of super over-production. I bought boxes of ProSet MusiCards at my local Dollar store. Regarding errors. Don't forget the mis-spelling of Madonna's last name on the Promo, subsequently corrected and reworded.

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There is another thread about error cards:

http://nonsportupdate.infopop....257024016#5257024016

It shows two Star Trek cards with sports card backs.

I have a couple of Creators Universe (Dynamic Entertainment, 1993) promos with upside-down backs.

There is a Star Wars Galaxy promo with a P5 front and a P6 back. Both cards exist with their correct fronts and backs.

I vaguely recall an unnumbered X-Files card by Topps that was in circulation in the late 90's. I think it was the #1 card in one of the sets but it didn't have the number on it. Some thought it was released as a promo but it might have been a pack-pulled error. Maybe someone else remembers the details on that.
 
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Another error card was a promo given out at Disneyland. It's the "The Merriest Place on Earth" card (listed in PCE 2008) with Goofy showing two left hands and one hand going through the sign rather than holding it. There was a corrected card (Goofy clearly holding the sign with both hands) with the corrected card valued a little more than the error.

I haven't seen these cards for sale in a while so I assume they're less common than the "Hercules Victory Parade," "Critter Country," and "Tomorrowland" cards given out around the same time.
 
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