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Originally posted by Komodo:
I don't know what a LHS is, but it sounds like the non-sport market is definitely a fringe market now.


It has always been sort of a strange hobby. . .

On the one hand it definitely seems like a fringe market -- I can't really buy product locally. Local shops carry very little product.

On the other hand certain Marvel cards are now selling for significant money. Many of the autographs sell for $1000+ dollars, some sell for $5000+, and those prices can be seen or exceeded in chase cards like PMGs.

I was looking at the top end FUSM Jambalaya cards last night. Jambalaya cards of Spider-Man, Carnage and Venom can sell for close to $1000 -- possibly Wolverine and Deadpool are in that range too, but I wasn't looking at them. I was thinking these cards have to be really rare, right? I looked it up -- these were inserted at 1:72 packs. So not a tough pull at all -- there is a good chance if you opened FUSM you might have a Jambalaya sitting around.

So. . . bizarre. . . very fringe, yet not so much.
 
Posts: 5117 | Location: Parts Unknown. | Registered: January 25, 2001Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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It does seem like a strange contradiction to me. The higher end cards are now worth what I always thought/hoped they would be, but everything else seems to be stagnant or even dropping in price. I jumped on board the non-sport trading card train back in 2006 and back then there seemed to be much more interest in the hobby than there is today. Just look at how much the traffic has dropped on this site alone. Not to mention the manufacturers who have come and gone and/or appear to be struggling. And yet, if you have the right cards, business is booming like never before. Confused
 
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It does seem like a strange contradiction to me. Confused


Is it a hobby? Is it a business? Is it an investment? It can be all three, but not at the same time, in the same degree of importance.

Deciding what you really want from your non-sport card buying takes away a lot of the contradictions and also makes you less susceptible to believing other people's collecting ideas, which are usually beneficial only to them. Wink
 
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It does seem like a strange contradiction to me. The higher end cards are now worth what I always thought/hoped they would be, but everything else seems to be stagnant or even dropping in price. I jumped on board the non-sport trading card train back in 2006 and back then there seemed to be much more interest in the hobby than there is today. Just look at how much the traffic has dropped on this site alone. Not to mention the manufacturers who have come and gone and/or appear to be struggling. And yet, if you have the right cards, business is booming like never before. Confused


My observation is that it seems the hobby has become tremendously segmented.

The surge in Marvel card prices has been driven by sports card collectors (don't say that in the wrong forum, apparently it is offensive).

Star Wars cards have been a steady growth in popularity/conductibility with the growth in fans of the franchise.

There are other many other segments too, but I think there are far fewer casual collectors today -- people who will just buy packs or boxes because they are made.

Cards that are sought after by one of the segments see tremendous interest, but other cards have a hard time getting traction. I think this is why we see so few new licenses or titles anymore.

The sad thing is that I see people go back and collect some of these awesome recent sets and talk about how great they are -- and I just think -- dang, if you would have been interested in this set when it was released the company that produced it would still be around.

I kind of don't mind the juxtaposition because on the one hand cards I have been holding on to are worth significantly more than they were, but on the other hand I feel like there are still bargains to be had.
 
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Ahh on track now lol

Hmm I think we have 3 in town, actually. I've been in all at one time or another, I think at least one sells on Ebank. Quick summary, much is as described by others here. One had the kind of product I'm interested in (older N/S sets) but priced top end, and nothing I really wanted anyway.

New N/S is almost nonexistent- same as extra funds lol. Honestly, to me it was a lot more fun when I was younger. A dollar could get you 5 packs and each probably had 10 cards and a sticker.

I still go for the base sets, and other insert sets if they're affordable & interesting. But I do miss opening packs, and trying to find those last few cards to make a set complete. Now it's just cheaper to buy a base set online a couple months after release. That's getting harder to do too. I made quite a few (for me) purchases last year, to catch up on my want list.

I'm basically the bottom feeder in the grand scheme of things lol. I take up some of the stock that gathers dust, and now & then luck out on something hard to find. And honestly, I'm happy with that- that's what keeps me going.

For a little while I made the attempt at buying items others were looking for just to make a trade. It kinda ties into this subject... but it takes a lot more effort than I'm willing to make at this stage in my life. And the trading game- again, more effort than I'm willing to make now. It worked for a while, and was a fun activity.

I guess it's just part of the evolution of things, like everything else. That's what makes this hobby interesting- the wide variety of subject matter, with the legacy of past products. The retail method has changed so much too! Kudos to those who have a shop open and manage to earn a living too. It takes a lot of work and dedication to build and keep a customer base.

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It's hard to find a store with cards, and when they do have some, they don't have open boxes so you can buy packs. Two different stores have had packs. One had a shelf with some miscellaneous leftover packs. I bought a couple of packs of Star Wars 40th Anniversary to see if I could get lucky - nope. At another store, there was an open box of "Picard." I bought a pack just to open a pack of something and check out the cards. And this was a store that had been getting out of cards but I guess the owner had heard that some were selling again so he was willing to try some again. I noticed he had sold a few non-sport singles and sets since my last visit.

I used to buy extra stuff to trade too but don't do that anymore. I still end up with some tradable extras if I find a good lot.

The other day, I noticed at least one seller had the 6-card chromium chase set from the first William Stout set (1994) for only $10. It took me a while back then to put that together. The local dealers didn't carry much of it so I think I finished the set by finding the last card at a show or maybe an early Ebay win. Some things are cheaper than they used to be. It is a good time to buy something like one of the Comic Images boxes. I saw a Conan II box for $20 plus shipping so I might look for something else around that price just to open some packs.



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Originally posted by Komodo:
Ahh on track now lol

Hmm I think we have 3 in town, actually. I've been in all at one time or another, I think at least one sells on Ebank. Quick summary, much is as described by others here. One had the kind of product I'm interested in (older N/S sets) but priced top end, and nothing I really wanted anyway.

I still go for the base sets, and other insert sets if they're affordable & interesting. But I do miss opening packs, and trying to find those last few cards to make a set complete. Now it's just cheaper to buy a base set online a couple months after release. That's getting harder to do too. I made quite a few (for me) purchases last year, to catch up on my want list.

I'm basically the bottom feeder in the grand scheme of things lol. I take up some of the stock that gathers dust, and now & then luck out on something hard to find. And honestly, I'm happy with that- that's what keeps me going.

For a little while I made the attempt at buying items others were looking for just to make a trade. It kinda ties into this subject... but it takes a lot more effort than I'm willing to make at this stage in my life. And the trading game- again, more effort than I'm willing to make now. It worked for a while, and was a fun activity.

I guess it's just part of the evolution of things, like everything else. That's what makes this hobby interesting- the wide variety of subject matter, with the legacy of past products. The retail method has changed so much too! Kudos to those who have a shop open and manage to earn a living too. It takes a lot of work and dedication to build and keep a customer base.
 
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I used to do quite a bit of trading for single cards to build sets, but when the postage prices rose it became significantly cheaper to buy a set than it was to trade for several cards to complete a set.
 
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