Does anyone have any images of the sketches being offered by RA in thier rewards scheme?

They are:

Herman Munster by Darren Auck
Alixia by Warren Martineck
Daelen by Warren Martineck

I'm a few points short of the 1500 points but once I have enough I'm thinking of redeeming them for one of these cards.

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I have never understood why Rittenhouse do not have pictures up of the things that can be redeemed. Who is going to use 1500 points on a sketch they have never seen.

The two star trek ones by Warren are up for sale on ebay just now. They came up when I ray a search using martineck sketch
I'd always wondered what they looked like as well; now I know. I am still wondering what Torres by Moore and the Xena cereal expansion set look like.

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Originally posted by wolfie:
I have never understood why Rittenhouse do not have pictures up of the things that can be redeemed. Who is going to use 1500 points on a sketch they have never seen.

Are they all the same or each card unique?

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Originally posted by Redemption:

Are they all the same or each card unique?

The Alixia by Warren Martineck and Daelen by Warren Martineck are all unique, one of a kind.

I don't know about the munsters.

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Originally posted by Scifi_Collector:

The Alixia by Warren Martineck and Daelen by Warren Martineck are all unique, one of a kind.

I don't know about the munsters.

Thanks for the info... perhaps that's why RA doesn't show the images. You get what you get.

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Originally posted by Redemption:

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Originally posted by Scifi_Collector:

The Alixia by Warren Martineck and Daelen by Warren Martineck are all unique, one of a kind.

I don't know about the munsters.

Thanks for the info... perhaps that's why RA doesn't show the images. You get what you get.

Perhaps, but when throwing away 1500 points it would be nice to see what you are getting as they do take a good while to accumilate.

Personally I find the sketches shown a little undewhelming - I'd rather pick up some of the 300-500 point chase cards.

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Originally posted by X:
Perhaps, but when throwing away 1500 points it would be nice to see what you are getting as they do take a good while to accumilate.

uh....

How can you see what you are getting if each card is a 1/1 and the card they send you is random?

Thanks for the image venom5liter. And thanks for the heads up comicbookfan, I've just ran a search and they look pretty good sketches.

There's are the images taken from the auctions. Just to give everyone an idea of what they look like.

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I have 2 Daelen's on my site under "Rittenhouse"

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Originally posted by Scifi_Collector:

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Originally posted by X:
Perhaps, but when throwing away 1500 points it would be nice to see what you are getting as they do take a good while to accumilate.

uh....

How can you see what you are getting if each card is a 1/1 and the card they send you is random?

They could do what is done with a great many sketch cards and scan the lot. I'd imagine there aren't all that many of them.

Even if shwoing them all, or at least a fair few doesn't necessarily mean you would know which ONE card you would recieve it would give a good indication of quality and style and would definately help me make a decision on what to spend my points. It sure beats seeing absolutely nothing.

The problem with that is then people will say "Here is my order. I would like sketch #3 on page 4 of this one and sketch #8 on page 9 of that one".

Ya get what ya get - they're all quality (and usually in the case of the Martinecks all by one artist) so if you know that artist's work, which you should be if you're ordering it at all - then you should be satisfied with what you get.

Plus, I imagine, if you were absolutely desperate to see a scan - searching eBay or posting here would net you a few.

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Originally posted by X:

Perhaps, but when throwing away 1500 points it would be nice to see what you are getting as they do take a good while to accumilate.

Personally I find the sketches shown a little undewhelming - I'd rather pick up some of the 300-500 point chase cards.

What's so wrong about being "surprised" about the sketch you get? It's no different than when you buy a box or pack. You never know exactly what you're getting. Except in this case you do know what artist it will be. Don't look at it as though you're throwing away anything. In fact you're actually redeeming something for something you otherwise would have thrown away.

Now personally, I would go for other cards myself as well since I'm not a huge sketch collector.

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Originally posted by Over_Worked_Mom:
The problem with that is then people will say "Here is my order. I would like sketch #3 on page 4 of this one and sketch #8 on page 9 of that one".

If RA specifically stated that the sketch you will recieve WILL be random, then I can see no problem. Its no different to what happens now. That may not stop people still making requests but that doesn't mean they have to be honoured if the redemption rules are clearly outlined.

Ya get what ya get - they're all quality (and usually in the case of the Martinecks all by one artist) so if you know that artist's work, which you should be if you're ordering it at all - then you should be satisfied with what you get.

I don't want to start a sketch debate but quality is very subjective. IMO Martineck is a very good artist, although truth be told his facial-likenesses aren't the best. Some of his other cards, like with 2-case Enterprise cards, well... WOW. His quality varies greatly.
I know the artists work, and like a great deal of it but that doesn't mean I would or "should" be satisfied with every specimen of their work. In this case I wouldn't be happy, and I would feel I'd wasted some hard-saved points. I mean that wouldn't be a fun feeling for a collector.
To make it worse, the RA website it doesn't even state whether the cards are b&w or colour, which again is a big factor for some.

And maybe some collectors will open packs of say, Stargate, and notice the redemption points on the wrappers and want to check the rewards catalogue. They shouldn't have to do a tonne of research to find out about any item before they order it. That defeats the purpose of a catalogue. Some people will be put off by the lack of information. I know I was!


Plus, I imagine, if you were absolutely desperate to see a scan - searching eBay or posting here would net you a few.

True, but that is assuming everyone knows about this website. Or assuming some are available for sale on eBay all the time, which won't always be the case. Ultimately the prospective redeemer is still stuck with not much to go on.

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Originally posted by Redemption:

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Originally posted by X:

Perhaps, but when throwing away 1500 points it would be nice to see what you are getting as they do take a good while to accumilate.

Personally I find the sketches shown a little undewhelming - I'd rather pick up some of the 300-500 point chase cards.

What's so wrong about being "surprised" about the sketch you get? It's no different than when you buy a box or pack. You never know exactly what you're getting. Except in this case you do know what artist it will be. Don't look at it as though you're throwing away anything. In fact you're actually redeeming something for something you otherwise would have thrown away.

Now personally, I would go for other cards myself as well since I'm not a huge sketch collector.

I understand what you are saying Redemption, but its not like pulling a totally random card. If you are put in the position to make a choice on what you 'spend' your points on it would be useful to have all the information to guide you. You know the artist but you may not be familiar with their work, and to what degree of quality to expect.

Perhaps "throwing away" points was the wrong phrase but if a collector was unhappy with a card then they probably would feel they had wasted their points. And whilst these cards are freebies, and I appreciate them greatly because I have ordered them myself, bear in mind the points are not free. Generally, people spend a great deal of money in order to accumilate these points and if I where to dump 1500 of them then I'd want to know more about what I'd be getting. Once your points are gone, they're gone!

I don't get why scanning some cards is such a chore. Are there really so many it is too time consuming? And if it is time consuming would it really be so hard to just scan a 9-card page of them, or even just one card and call it a sample? It just screams lack of effort to me.

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Originally posted by X:

I don't get why scanning some cards is such a chore. Are there really so many it is too time consuming? And if it is time consuming would it really be so hard to just scan a 9-card page of them, or even just one card and call it a sample? It just screams lack of effort to me.

I don't think it's a bad idea to give at least one sample. Perhaps RA will listen to that suggestion.

I'm perfectly happy with my two Martinecks.

If you don't want yours you can always send them to me.

RA can do whatever they like, but remember, after I was dismissed, the rewards catalog fell to the remaining staff, all of whom already had full plates. In this thread you want scans of all the sketches, in another you want photos of props and costumes done and posted for all past sets and all upcoming sets, and yet you still want quality sets produced in a timely fashion, complete with details provided months in advance.

In MY OPINION, something's gotta give - and quite frankly, this is the lesser of all those other things listed - and I'm not sure that AS A COLLECTOR I even like seeing all my presents before I open them, but that's a conversation for a different day.

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Originally posted by Over_Worked_Mom:
RA can do whatever they like, but remember, after I was dismissed, the rewards catalog fell to the remaining staff, all of whom already had full plates. In this thread you want scans of all the sketches, in another you want photos of props and costumes done and posted for all past sets and all upcoming sets, and yet you still want quality sets produced in a timely fashion, complete with details provided months in advance.

Be that as it may, these Martineck cards were some of the first rewards cards in the catalogue when it came about, and have languished there a good few years. And accross all those years not one person, including yourself, had time to scan one card, or a couple, add it to a website and label it sample?

Remember that whilst I said scans of every card would be nice, one or two would be useful. If that isn't true AJJ wouldn't have to go to the trouble of making a thread on a website.


Onto your other point, about scans of inserts for card sets as a whole... I think they are invaluable for promoting interest amongst collectors. RA used to scan all the autographs and costumes and put the images in the checklist, now it doesn't happen at all. Just afew cluttered images on a press release. If it used to be standard practice a company should expect questions when it is stopped.