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Vintage in April-May Issue of NSU

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January 08, 2019, 08:35 AM
BeckettBible24
Vintage in April-May Issue of NSU
Hey everyone! I thought I would make a little post here to let everyone know that the April-May issue will include a 2-page vintage section ahead of the modern section. We'd like to get your input on what sets you'd like to see in there. So please, take the the time to leave a comment and share what you'd like to see.
January 08, 2019, 09:10 AM
wolfie
Topps Shocking Laffs

Somportex sets

Cornerstone sets.

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January 08, 2019, 03:13 PM
silmapco
Would prefer to see pricing from sets in the 60's like The Beatles,Monkees,Man from Uncle.JFK,RFK.
Vintage should be taken to be anything from the mid 70's backwards as there is a trading section on NSU Card Talk that is set up for those issues.
You may find that a 2 page spread might not be large enough to cover many of the issues as there is a lot of interest in vintage cards.
January 13, 2019, 05:39 PM
Heroes For Hire
What year ends the vintage definition? Is it pre-1980 card sets?
January 13, 2019, 06:43 PM
Raven
I think that would generally be considered correct, but as the years go on, the hobby should really come up with a different standard.

All we have now is vintage and modern being commonly used as terms. Would anyone regard a 1985 non-sport card as being in the same class as a 2018 non-sport card when the manufacturing has changed so radically? Yet they are both modern. I think there should be designated 20 year cycles and cards should fall into each cycle as they age out. Maybe some official trading card publication could look into an idea along those lines. Wink

On a somewhat related note, I have been recently advised that only pre-70s sports cards in high grade condition are in demand in the vintage sports card market. So there is an additional 10 year push back and gradable condition is key for vintage sports issues. As non-sport cards are going down the same path, you can make of that what you will.
January 14, 2019, 02:09 AM
Heroes For Hire
I almost want to say that when the packed inserted autographed, sketch, and memorabilia cards started in the mid-1990’s should be considered “modern” cards.
But I don’t think of the cards of the 1980’s and early-1990’s as necessarily “vintage” either. Maybe “pre-modern” or something like that Wink

I’m curious about:
1966 Marvel Superhero
1967 Marvel Superhero Stickers
1967 Star Trek
January 14, 2019, 04:19 AM
catskilleagle
I think "pre-modern" is a pretty good term for 80's to mid-90's sets though a round number so close to the most recent turn of the century might yield to the year 2000 for many people as the 2020's come and go. At some point what's now "vintage" may be subdivided with terms like "vintage" and "classic" and early 21st century cards might have their own category as Raven said.


quote:
Originally posted by Heroes For Hire:
I almost want to say that when the packed inserted autographed, sketch, and memorabilia cards started in the mid-1990’s should be considered “modern” cards.
But I don’t think of the cards of the 1980’s and early-1990’s as necessarily “vintage” either. Maybe “pre-modern” or something like that Wink

I’m curious about:
1966 Marvel Superhero
1967 Marvel Superhero Stickers
1967 Star Trek

January 14, 2019, 10:35 AM
wolfie
I think i would class anything pre Inkworks as being from another time of collecting so that would be what, 94 ish?

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January 14, 2019, 12:48 PM
Tommy C
Inkworks, when it was known as "Graffiti", had its first card set with the James Bond, Goldeneye cards, released around the time of the movie, in November 1995
January 14, 2019, 02:20 PM
wolfie
Right so there is a split, let's say........

upto 1980

1980 -- 1995

1995 -- now.

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January 14, 2019, 05:00 PM
Raven
quote:
Originally posted by wolfie:
Right so there is a split, let's say........

upto 1980

1980 -- 1995

1995 -- now.


Going with a 3-way split, I would say . . .

Leave vintage at pre-1980

Pre-Modern 1980 - 2009

Modern 2010 on.

I agree Inkworks is a cornerstone to what has become the modern non-sport card, I would just expand the Pre-Modern, or whatever else you want to call it, to cover more years and the entirety of Inksworks beginning and demise, along with the best years of a few others like Artbox and Breygent (I know, not done yet) and Press Pass.
February 09, 2019, 03:34 PM
Heroes For Hire
Nice timing on having a feature ”Stuck On Super Heroes” in the February/March 2019 issue that focused on the 1967 Marvel Super Hero Sticker by Charlie Novinskie Thumb Up

quote:
Originally posted by Heroes For Hire:
I’m curious about:
1966 Marvel Superhero
1967 Marvel Superhero Stickers
1967 Star Trek

March 30, 2019, 11:07 AM
JOHN LEVITT
Having received my April/May 2019 copy of NSU this morning I presume that the 2 page vintage section is about the Chu-Bops Album covers issued 1980-83. I have a vague recollection that I have seen them here in the UK but I cannot be totally sure where or when. I have better recollection of the original LP albums having still got some of those pictured.

regards

John

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April 01, 2019, 05:33 PM
Raven
quote:
Originally posted by JOHN LEVITT:
Having received my April/May 2019 copy of NSU this morning I presume that the 2 page vintage section is about the Chu-Bops Album covers issued 1980-83. John


I just got NSU today, I don't think that's it. That's just an article about an early 80's set I never heard of. While I enjoying reading about vintage products, I do think the subjects need broader popularity. Also a whole page and a half is taken up by pictures, so there's not much space left for the writer.

Anyway, I think this vintage thing was supposed to be 2 pages of price guide on older cards before the regular listings. I can't find it, so I could be wrong, but maybe it didn't make it in.
April 10, 2019, 07:30 PM
Heroes For Hire
In the "Departments" section of "How To Use The Price Guide" on page 41 under "Updates" there's a blurb that says the special vintage section has been postponed.

Probably needs more feedback. Maybe requests could be asked on Beckett and NSU's Twitter accounts in the near future also Thumb Up