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Box 4136
BT1
R2, 3, 5, 7, 9
C11 Malfoy costume 435/625
P3 Daily Prophet 027/505
CFC2 FilmCard - Voldemort with cells of Umbridge 030/260

Box 2456
BT1
R2, 4, 5, 7, 9
C12 George's white shirt 275/600
P6 Umbridge's stationery 285/450 (variant with roses and top of cat's head)

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Box: 24 packs of 8 cards, 10 boxes/case, 600 cases total
Base cards: expect 2.01 sets per box on average, if collation were perfect

My case:

Case-Topper Crystal Card: Voldemort, totally clear. This is the only untinted crystal I've heard about. Rumor has it that Artbox made some clear versions for future sale or goodie-bag distribution. For the moment, I am assuming that I have the rarest item from the initial release!

BOX 1798
Base sets: 2, plus three extras
BT3 - R1-R3-R5-R6-R8
C9 - Ginny's school pants, 118/600
Auto - Robert Hardy as Cornelius Fudge

BOX 5237
Base sets: 2, plus 1 extra; 1 misprinted
BT2 - R1-R3-R4-R6-R8
C3 - Luna's school sweater, 464/475
Auto - Timothy Bateson as Voice of Kreacher

BOX 4038
Base sets: 1, missing 1 for 2nd, plus 1 extra
BT4 - R2-R4-R6-R8-R9
C4 - Cho's striped sweater, 273/680
CFC7 - 067/260, cel: Voldemort with hands cupping face

BOX 4745
Base sets: 1, missing 1 for 2nd, plus 2 extras
BT1 - R1-R3-R5-R7-R8
C12 - George Weasley's beige shirt, 426/600
P5 - Daily Prophet (with Seamus), 092/280

BOX 2263
Base sets: 1, missing 1 for 2nd, no extras, 1 damaged
BT2 - R1-R2-R4-R6-R8
C7 - Ginny's green jacket (3-color collar swatch), 367/625
CFC6 - 218/260, cel: Weasley fireworks

BOX 5876
Base sets: 2, plus 3 extras; 2 damaged
BT1 - R1-R3-R5-R7-R8
C8 - Luna's purple pants, 025/570
Auto - David Thewlis as Remus Lupin (redemption)

BOX 2938
Base sets: 2, plus 3 extras
BT2 - R1-R3-R4-R6-R8
C13 - Fred and George's white and floral shirts (dual), 096/475
Auto - Jason Piper as Bane (redemption)

BOX 0663
Base sets: 2, plus 3 extras
BT1 - R2-R3-R5-R7-R9
C14 - Voldemort and Dumbledore dual (material used to create), 171/185
Auto - Sian Thomas as Amelia Bones (redemption)

BOX 1259
Base sets: 2, exactly
BT3 - R2-R4-R6-R7-R9
C11 - Lucius Malfoy costume fabric (material used to create), 077/625
P6 - Stationary <sic> from Dolores Umbridge's Office, 273/460
CFC3 - 075/260, cel: trio walking halls

BOX 3389
Base sets: 1, missing 3 for 2nd, no extras; 1 damaged
BT4 - R2-R4-R5-R7-R9
C10 - Ron's school pants, 541/600
P1 - Cauldron from Snape's Office, 026/150

There are case clusters observed again for the combination of "high chase" in specific case options. Guesses on total numbers of autographs will be available when we get some more statistics.
 
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do you mean this one jeff as that is one on the auction site for $60 bin so £30


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I know of one other person who also has a clear case loader.
 
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so they mustn't be that rare then must of decided not to keep them back.

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Busted two boxes this evening while watching the DVD of the movie.
Box: 1812/6000
BT2
R2, R4, R5, R7, R9
Film cell: CFC7 095/260 Neville card w/ Bellatrix cells
Costume: C4 Cho Chang (Katie Leung) Sweater variant (pink/mauve) 246/680

Box: 5838/6000
BT4
R1, R3, R5, R6, R8
Film cell: CFC3 117/260 Neville card w/ Hermione, Ginny, Harry, Ron, Neville
Costume: C11 Lucius Malfoy 003/625
Prop: P6 Umbridge's Office Paper Prop 027/450

Love these cards! Now I want to track down a Natalia Tena autograph (Tonks)... and maybe a Hermione sweater card... Big Grin

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so they mustn't be that rare then must of decided not to keep them back.

But but, maybe they're more rare than the dual auto. I'll take the best offer as long as it's more than $2000. Smokin'
 
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My case in no particular order:

Props:

P2 Ministry of Magic Flying Memos # 206/435
P3 The Daily Prophet # 88/505
P6 Stationary from Umbridge's Office # 131/450

Costumes:

C3 Luna Lovegood # 384/475
C4 Cho Chang # 397/680
C5 Harry Potter # 267/275
C7 Ginny Weasley #573/625
C8 Luna Lovegood # 213/570
C9 Ginny Weasley # 407/600
C10 Ron Weasley # 42/600
C11 Lucius Malfoy # 479/625
C12 George Weasley # 450/600
C13 Fred and George Weasly Dual Costume # 52/475

Case Topper Crystal Harry Potter

Autos:

Harry Melling as Dudley Dursely
Natalia Tena as Nymphadora Tonks
Helena Bonham Carter as Bellatrix Lestrange
Kathryn Hunter as Arabella Figg (Redemption)
Sian Thomas as Amelia Bones (Redemption)

Cinema Fim Cell Cards:

2 # 167/260 Voldemorte
4 # 112/260 Umbridge
9 # 230/260 Crabbe

If not for the Lestrange autograph I would say a very disappointing case. I must be spoiled but no low number props or costumes and over half my costumes are plain black piece of clothing.

At least I didn't get a Warrick Davis or Argus Filch autograph-lol.

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Posts: 1112 | Location: Freehold, NJ, USA | Registered: January 04, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Here is my brothers case. I was starting to get this deja vu feeling when I helped him open it, and then realized why. I had seen this same case break posted on here saturday. (Honest Jeff, we did open a case ourselves, we didn't copy your case break.)

Box 4564:
C9 Ginny, Fudge AUTO

Box 987:
C3-Luna, Kreacher AUTO

Box 3877:
CFC7, C4-Cho

Box 5104:
c12 George Weasley, P5 daily prophet

Box 443:
C7 Ginny 3 color variant, cfc6 film cell.

Box 2744:
Lupin AUTO: C8 luna

Box 5657:
c13 weasley bros, Bane AUTO

Box 2144:
c14 Voldemort-dumbledore, Amelia Bones AUTO

Box 3352:
C11 Lucious, P6 Stationary, cfc3 cell.

Box 1564:
c10 ron weasley, p1 cauldron prop.

Case topper was hermione.

We have opened at least a case of every product that has been made, and maybe I wasn't paying attention, but I did not know that cases could have identical items in every box, across the board?!? This kind of takes the randomness out of a product if you know they work this way.

When he pulled the first autograph, I jokingly told him you'll probably get these 4 in the rest of the case. He didn't think it was too funny when I was right. Some cool cards for sure, but we have opened somewhere around 15 sealed cases of potter products, and have yet to pull any of the 3 main kids, and I was seriously hoping for the bellatrix auto for my own collection.
 
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I got the exact case, also. MadArtbox should be embarrassed by this, what a bunch of ****. Yes, that probably is harsh, but after paying $600 for this case, I feel I have a right to vent. Mad Mad Mad

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I got the exact case, also. MadArtbox should be embarrassed by this, what a bunch of ****. Yes, that probably is harsh, but after paying $600 for this case, I feel I have a right to vent. Mad Mad Mad


You are a very harsh person.

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Just wait until this weekend!!! Razz

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Why, what is your wife doing?

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Case clusters have been showing up for many of the recent Harry Potter releases. Jeff has been keeping track of this, so he can add a lot more to the conversation. I may not be remembering correctly, but I think the clusters started when Artbox sent card production and packaging to China.

We've also been seeing cases that have fewer than five autos. In the past, there were five autos, 10 costumes, three props, and three filmcards per case. For OOTPU, there are boxes that have only one premium insert instead of two, and most of the time, it's the autos that are missing. There could have been a packing problem or maybe Artbox didn't have enough autos to insert five per case. What's interesting is that the odds used to be printed on the packs. They aren't for this set.
 
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Yeah, V-I-M and Batman, that was exactly my case too.

Clusters may have been around even longer before we started noticing them. They became apparent when I was collating all of the case and box breakdowns, trying to estimate the numbers of autographs, and patterns emerged.

Pretty much, there have been three trios of CFC cards. Within each group of Cel combinations are about three clusters where the autos, costumes, and props are all the same, with a few straggling variations. (Numbers for cards don't always divide nicely by three, etc.)

I feel a bit nervous talking about case clusters because they it could make it somewhat easier to cherry-pick from cases, but I think everybody knows that Artbox will usually try to balance the scarcest cards.

I try to gather statistics on about 10% of the print run ... it gives better statistics. So if anybody doesn't want to post their details, but still has totals for their boxes or cases, I'd be delighted to accept emails that can add to the base of the "research". I'll even try to answer the emails, though some people know I've been away from the card collection so frequently recently, I'm seriously behind on emails, and for that I apologize!
 
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We've also been seeing cases that have fewer than five autos. In the past, there were five autos, 10 costumes, three props, and three filmcards per case. For OOTPU, there are boxes that have only one premium insert instead of two, and most of the time, it's the autos that are missing. There could have been a packing problem or maybe Artbox didn't have enough autos to insert five per case. What's interesting is that the odds used to be printed on the packs. They aren't for this set.

I've seen 19 full-case reports so far, and 15 of them fit the usual distribution pattern of 10-5-3-3. Four of them were missing 1 or 2 autos, but three of those were for "our" case, where the Lupin redemption card was missing and there was only one high insert in the box that had the C8 card. The fourth was a real problem, because it only had 3 autos, 8 costumes, and 2 CFCs. It was also from the CFC 3-6-7 big cluster.

Out of 3.4% of the boxes, it's averaged one autograph per 2.18 boxes.

There must be some clustering for the people who are reporting, too. Seven of the 19 reports so far are the "same" case, four with all five autos and three with the Lupin missing. And there's no breakdowns yet that reported finding the Cubison or Trinder triptych autos.
 
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Well you can add me to the list, I also got that case a few timeFrown Here are my 5 cases:

Case 1

Props
P2 Flying Memos
P3 Daily Prophet 1
P6 Umbridge Notebook Paper

Costumes
C3 Luna’s school sweater
C4 Cho’s striped sweater
C5 Harry’s school sweater
C7 Ginny’s green jacket
C8 Luna’s purple pants
C9 Ginny’s school pants
C10 Ron’s school pants
C11 Lucius Malfoy costume fabric
C12 George Weasley’s beige shirt
C13 Fred and George’s white/floral shirt double costume

Autos
Bellatrix Lestrange/Helena Bonham Carter
Nymphadora Tonks/Natalia Tena
Amelia Bones/Sian Thomas
Arabella Figg/Kathryn Hunter
Dudley Dursley/Harry Melling

Film Cells
CFC2
CFC4
CFC9

Case Topper
Harry – Yellow

Case 2

Props
P2 Flying Memos
P3 Daily Prophet 1
P6 Umbridge Notebook Paper

Costumes
C3 Luna’s school sweater
C4 Cho’s striped sweater
C5 Harry’s school sweater
C7 Ginny’s green jacket
C8 Luna’s purple pants
C9 Ginny’s school pants
C10 Ron’s school pants
C11 Lucius Malfoy costume fabric
C12 George Weasley’s beige shirt
C13 Fred and George’s white/floral shirt double costume

Autos
Draco Malfoy/Tom Felton
Bellatrix Lestrange/Helena Bonham Carter
Nymphadora Tonks/Natalia Tena
Kreacher (voice of)/Timothy Bateson
Dudley Dursley/Harry Melling

Film Cells
CFC3
CFC6
CFC7

Case Topper
Voldemort – Yellow

Case 3

Props
P2 Flying Memos
P3 Daily Prophet 1
P5 Daily Prophet 2

Costumes
C3 Luna’s school sweater
C4 Cho’s striped sweater
C6 Ron’s Tie
C7 Ginny’s green jacket
C8 Luna’s purple pants
C9 Ginny’s school pants
C10 Ron’s school pants
C11 Lucius Malfoy costume fabric
C12 George Weasley’s beige shirt
C13 Fred and George’s white/floral shirt double costume

Autos
Bellatrix Lestrange/Helena Bonham Carter
Cornelius Fudge/Robert Hardy
Remus Lupin/David Thewlis
Mad-Eye Moody/Brendan Gleeson
Arabella Figg/Kathryn Hunter

Film Cells
CFC3
CFC6
CFC7

Case Topper
Voldemort – Yellow

Case 4

Props
P1 Cauldron from Snapes Office
P5 Daily Prophet 2
P6 Umbridge Notebook Paper

Costumes
C3 Luna’s school sweater
C4 Cho’s striped sweater
C7 Ginny’s green jacket
C8 Luna’s purple pants
C9 Ginny’s school pants
C10 Ron’s school pants
C11 Lucius Malfoy costume fabric
C12 George Weasley’s beige shirt
C13 Fred and George’s white/floral shirt double costume
C14 Voldemort and Dumbledore double costume

Autos
Kreacher (voice of)/Timothy Bateson
Cornelius Fudge/Robert Hardy
Remus Lupin/David Thewlis
Amelia Bones/Sian Thomas
Bane/Jason Piper

Film Cells
CFC3
CFC6
CFC7

Case Topper
Harry – Yellow

Case 5

Props
P3 Daily Prophet 1
P6 Umbridge Notebook Paper
P12 Test tube and stand double prop

Costumes
C1 Harry’s blue hooded shirt
C4 Cho’s striped sweater
C5 Harry’s school sweater
C7 Ginny’s green jacket
C8 Luna’s purple pants
C9 Ginny’s school pants
C10 Ron’s school pants
C11 Lucius Malfoy costume fabric
C12 George Weasley’s beige shirt
C15 Gryffindor and Slytherin fabric double costume

Autos
Draco Malfoy/Tom Felton
Mad-Eye Moody/Brendan Gleeson
Arabella Figg/Kathryn Hunter
Bane/Jason Piper
Dudley Dursley/Harry Melling

Film Cells
CFC1
CFC5
CFC8

Case Topper
Harry – Pink
 
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Well you can add me to the list, I also got that case a few time:

Aw, I only saw one of that one. But your fifth case is the only one that we haven't seen before. There have been 11 case types out of the 23 reported, so it's kind of spread out.

Your case fall into clusters J, H, E, A, and K (the new one). Wink
 
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Got my two boxes today:

Box #1:
-Puzzle Cards: R1, R3, R5, R7, R9
-The Forbidden Forest: BT4
-Costume: C8 Luna Lovegood (520/570) (two colours)
-Auto: Robert Hardy (Cornelius Fudge)


Box #2:
-Puzzle Cards: R2, R4, R5, R7, R9
-The Forbidden Forest: BT3
-Costume: C11 Lucius Malfoy (551/625)
-Prop: P3 Daily Prophet (294/505)
-Cinema Film Cel: CFC2 Voldemort (208/260), Cells showing Sirius


I'm very happy with my pulls! Big Grin

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Box 316

2 complete sets with no spares.
Box Topper BT1
C12 George Weasley Costume 131/600
CFC2 Voldemort Cell Card 240/260
P3 Daily Prophet 231/505 (showing letters POT)

Box 3116

Have yet to sort commons.
Box Topper BT4
C3 Luna Costume 129/475
Natalia Tena as Nymphadora Tonks Auto

Missing R6 with 2 doubles

I liked the breakdown on this one. Tonks was one of the autos that I would have liked and the variataion on the Daily Prophet card made the boxes.

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