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Red Sonja, 35 Years of (Dynamic Forces)

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March 13, 2009, 12:39 AM
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Red Sonja, 35 Years of (Dynamic Forces)
Candidate for longest title of the year, 35 Years of Red Sonja Back To Basics Trading Cards have finally arrived after nearly a year of waiting.

How can you go wrong with a redhead in chain mail?

First thing I notice, boxes still have 36 packs. Nice to see again.

Next impression is that half the packs I open have some sort of chase card. Very nice to see.

So, once it's all opened and the pretty pictures looked at. Here is what my first box yielded:

1 Complete 72 Card Base Set (1 short of a second, lots of triples)
10 HoloFoil Puzzle cards (Complete 9 card Puzzle +1 extra)
8 Holo Foil Chase Cards (6 Unique, 2 doubles)
3 Autographs
  • Gene Ha
  • Alison Sohn
  • Gene Ha
    2 Sketch Cards
  • Kevin Sharpe Red Sonja 191/202
  • Jay Giston Red Sonja 31/200

    Fun box to open. Grade A overall, with a D in the "on time" category.

    Interesting to note the sketch cards have a place on the back for the artists name and for hand numbering the cards. I'm still not sure if I have the 2nd artist's name right, as his handwriting is like mine.

    Limited to 150 cases, this might be a sleeper hit. Lots of fun in the box.

    I'll try to post my additional breakdowns when the rest of my order arrives.

    Ed

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    Collecting Sketches of the Character Crystal

    March 14, 2009, 10:41 AM
    WandringRebel
    I've opened 3 boxes so far. Each has yieleded 1 sketch card and 2 autograph cards. I haven't had time to break down the number of chase cards or base sets that each box yields.
    It's a nice set but it looks exactly like the prior set in terms of design. The card stock is also really, really thin. I do like the fact that the name of each artist is neatly printed on the back of the sketch card and each sketch card is individually numbered.
    Here are the 3 sketches I've pulled so far.


    John Czop #20/60


    Rich Molinelli #24/166


    Adam Hughes #9/10 Bouncey

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    March 14, 2009, 11:49 AM
    goldenavenger
    That's a very cool Adam Hughes!!! Thumb Up

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    March 14, 2009, 07:37 PM
    WandringRebel
    quote:
    Originally posted by goldenavenger:
    That's a very cool Adam Hughes!!! Thumb Up

    It is a cool card.
    Not cool are the 9 foil puzzle cards. They are not numbered!! Shake Head

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    March 17, 2009, 08:39 PM
    Dragoncrypt
    WandringRebel - Congrats on the Adam Hughes pull, that card is a beauty Luv You

    SciFiCards - it looks like you might have opened one of "hot boxes" that were in previous Dynamic Forces releases, where there are more inserts, autos and sketches. I wonder if DF had hot boxes this time around?

    Dragoncrypt
    March 18, 2009, 12:18 AM
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    Busted a few more boxes, strays from 2 different cases...

    ? Complete 72 Card Base Set
    5 HoloFoil Puzzle cards
    3 Holo Foil Chase Cards
    3 Autographs
  • Christos Gage
  • Billy Tan
  • Michael Avon Oeming
    1 Sketch Card
  • Jay Giston Red Sonja 24/200

    ? Complete 72 Card Base Set
    7 HoloFoil Puzzle cards
    4 Holo Foil Chase Cards
    3 Autographs
  • Joseph Michael Linsner Clap (Keeping this one)
  • Greg Hildebrant Thumb Up
  • Allison Sohn
    1 Sketch Card
  • Rich Molinelli 82/166

    ? Complete 72 Card Base Set
    7 HoloFoil Puzzle cards
    5 Holo Foil Chase Cards
    2 Autographs
  • Michael Avon Oeming
  • Pablo Marcos
    1 Sketch Card
  • Ryan Stegman 90/197

    ? Complete 72 Card Base Set
    8 HoloFoil Puzzle cards
    10 Holo Foil Chase Cards [1 complete set + spare]
    3 Autographs
  • Luke Lieberman
  • Mel Rubi
  • Adam Hughes
    2 Sketch Card
  • Rich Mollinelli
  • Allison Sohn 12/60 Thumb Up

    Collation does seem to be hit or miss. Now I have to sort base sets... Shake Head

    Fun set, might have to open more just for the fun of it.

    Ed

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    Collecting Sketches of the Character Crystal

    March 18, 2009, 06:40 PM
    snkeeyes9
    While I agree the base set looks awesome, again I find the box with no autographs or sketch cards. I am getting frustrated with all issues the trading card industry is putting out lately, from no inserts to multiple poor sketch cards. I wrote to Dynamic Forces, not to get an insert but to vent. I will let you know if anything comes out of it. Hope everyone has better luck!
    March 22, 2009, 08:07 PM
    comicbookfan
    Well I opened the box I got from Ed.
    Here's my breakdown:
    3 base sets
    1 sketch card #171/202 by Kevin Sharpe
    2 Auto cards: Billy Tan & Brian Reed
    1 holofoil chase: #6 Red Sonja by Greg Horn
    5 puzzle holofoils.
    I'll scan the inserts later and post them.
    Inserts

    Item 300302165897


    My sketch card



    Likes: most of the images on the base set and the info on the card back listing the artist. That there is space for the artist to write their name & the card #.
    Dislikes: how thin the card stock is for the base set and that most of my base set cards having peeling edges. That the base set has horizontal & vertical images mixed together on the same 9 card page. The unnumbered puzzle cards.
    My sketch card has a crimp mark along the top of the card Shake Head and it's dated 2007 Roll Eyes. Given how long it has taken to get this release out and the mix of collation for inserts I can't say I'm in a hurry to try and deal with DF to get a replacement sketch. Plus I like the image of my sketch. Now if I knew I'd get an AH or Sohn as a replacement I'd send it in Big Grin but if I ended up with something like item 300302165897 I'd be kicking myself for sending it in.

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    March 22, 2009, 08:11 PM
    comicbookfan
    Oh yeah forgot to say Congrats to WandringRebel to that awesome AH pull Clap
    plus the Czop one is great as well.

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    March 22, 2009, 08:17 PM
    Redemption
    quote:
    Originally posted by comicbookfan:
    Now if I knew I'd get an AH or Sohn as a replacement I'd send it in Big Grin but if I ended up with something like item 300302165897 I'd be kicking myself for sending it in.


    Oh my god!!!Oh my god!!!Oh my god!!! LMAO!!! Big Grin

    Must stop laughing... it's really sad...


    ...but funny none-the-less! Big Grin

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    March 22, 2009, 08:46 PM
    Incarnadine
    quote:
    Originally posted by Redemption:
    quote:
    Originally posted by comicbookfan:
    Now if I knew I'd get an AH or Sohn as a replacement I'd send it in Big Grin but if I ended up with something like item 300302165897 I'd be kicking myself for sending it in.


    Oh my god!!!Oh my god!!!Oh my god!!! LMAO!!! Big Grin

    Must stop laughing... it's really sad...


    ...but funny none-the-less! Big Grin


    Holy farking schnit! Is that sketch for real? A true 1 of 1 masterpiece. Smokin'

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    March 23, 2009, 04:49 AM
    TheUberBob
    quote:
    Originally posted by Incarnadine:

    Holy farking schnit! Is that sketch for real? A true 1 of 1 masterpiece.


    For anyone who might not know, CB Cebulski is actually an editor and talent coordinator who mostly works with Marvel these days. Personally, I thought it was hilarious. If I had pulled that card I'd have been perfectly happy, but that's only because I know who he is. My roommate actually knows him and did has done some work for him in the past and when I showed him the auction he laughed his butt off.

    -Bob-

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    March 23, 2009, 11:29 AM
    igman7
    But if he did NOT know him and paid $60-$70 for a box, how much would he be laughing then?

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    March 23, 2009, 12:28 PM
    KADRAN00157
    That sketch made me laugh,
    thanks for sharing and great pulls everyone Smile

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    March 23, 2009, 12:33 PM
    Over_Worked_Mom
    quote:
    Candidate for longest title of the year, 35 Years of Red Sonja Back To Basics Trading Cards


    Wow. And no punctuation? I think I'll use this title with my kiddo on how NOT to title things *lol*
    March 23, 2009, 01:25 PM
    comicbookfan
    I've added scans of my inserts & the item 300302165897 since it will eventually drop off that site. I'll add some of the basic card images to imageshack later since there are great portrayals of Red Sonja.
    I had googled CB Cebulski to see who he was and saw he was with Marvel as an editor. So I get the idea and it is cute but still for the amount of money a box was I'd be a little stressed getting that sketch.
    My artist was one who obviously got sketch cards in early. On ebay I've seen some with 2008 dates. Gotta to say I have not seen a sketch card dated 2009 yet! This has got to be one of the longest developement times for a card set Big Grin

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    March 23, 2009, 03:34 PM
    Peter cloet
    it's very expensive for such a quality sketch.

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    March 23, 2009, 06:30 PM
    TheUberBob
    quote:
    Originally posted by igman7:
    But if he did NOT know him and paid $60-$70 for a box, how much would he be laughing then?


    You're 100% right, of course. However, it IS a 1 of 1! That's gotta count for something!

    -Bob-

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    March 23, 2009, 07:00 PM
    Redemption
    quote:
    Originally posted by TheUberBob:
    quote:
    Originally posted by igman7:
    But if he did NOT know him and paid $60-$70 for a box, how much would he be laughing then?


    You're 100% right, of course. However, it IS a 1 of 1! That's gotta count for something!

    -Bob-


    Looke more like a pile of #2 to me. Razz

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    March 25, 2009, 07:57 PM
    allender
    Very nice batch of base card artwork! Boxes hold 36 packs of 7 cards. 10 boxes per case, 120 cases total. Expect 3.31 base sets of 72 if collation were perfect. Items that were not part of the final release, but that had been shown in early press releases, include (1) Blank sketch cards, and (2) Retailer-incentive box bonus cards, signed by Roy Thomas, limited to 1973). Some sketch artists and signers who were on the 2007 sell sheets didn't make it into the 2009 release either. Many of the autographs were signed on two or three different background-art designs or in two different pen colors.

    Oh, and I guess I'm quite well pleased with my Adam Hughes concentration! Wink

    I didn't have a hot box, but for a while I thought I did. All of the premium cards in Box 2 were in the stack of 18 packs I opened first. So I'd call that a hot half-box and a dud half-box, which hints that snkeeyes9 won't be the only one disappointed.

    BOX 1

    Base cards (72): 3 complete sets, 18 doubles, 2 fives
    Holofoil cards (9, 1:7 packs): 1 4 5 6 9 (of 9)
    Foil puzzle cards (9, 1:7 packs): Top left,middle Center middle,right Bottom right [back]
    Sketch cards (23+, 1:36 packs): John Czop #35 of 60
    Autograph cards (41+, 1:18 packs): Adam Hughes (design 1: facing forward)
    Autograph cards (41+, 1:18 packs): Doug Murray (black ink)
    Star Power autographs (4, ?): Robert Rodriguez (Billy Tan art)

    BOX 2

    Base cards (72): 2 complete sets, 1 short of 3rd, 20 doubles, 1 five
    Holofoil cards (9, 1:7 packs): 2 4 5 7 9 (of 9)
    Foil puzzle cards (9, 1:7 packs): Top left Center left,middle Bottom middle,right,right [back]
    Sketch cards (23+, 1:36 packs): Adam Hughes #1 of 10
    Autograph cards (41+, 1:18 packs): Adam Hughes (design 2: left profile)
    Autograph cards (41+, 1:18 packs): Allison Sohn (design 2: facing forward)
    Autograph cards (41+, 1:18 packs): Billy Tan (black ink)
    Star Power autographs (4, ?): none