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Impel was the modern innovator of promo cards and they almost invariably distributed some form of advance card(s) prior to a set's release. Some of their first promo cards were distributed in "cello" packs. Two that come to mind are the 1991 Star Trek 25th Anniversary cards and the Terminator ones of that same year. sacrilege! I have opened a "promo" pack of each and In my observation, however, I haven't been able to find any dissimilarities between the cards they included in those early promo packs, and the corresponding numbered card in the set. In your experience, have you noticed any differences in color, trademark, etc.., however slight, between the 2? Has your experience been the same or have you discovered variations?

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Hi Promoking,

I've seen the Star Trek packs but I don't have any. In the past the word was they were all just base cards. There's a pack with "The Immunity Syndrome" on the top and card 226 on the bottom. There's another pack that has "Romulans" on the top and card 130 on the bottom.

Here's the #226 card back in the cello-pack. I don't have that base card nor the #130 base card but maybe someone else can look at this one any say if there is any difference in the way the text is organized or the way the copyright information is provided. If someone can hold both cards side-by-side, there may be a difference in the finish (matte/flat vs. glossy/shiny).


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Here's the card 130 back for comparison to the corresponding base card:


 
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I've checked the text. No difference. I'm more inclined to believe that if there are any differences at all, it would be with hue, color variations.

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Didn't the cards in the sample packs of the first Marvel set from Impel have variations compared to the "normal" cards?
 
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So if these are just base cards does this mean they are a promo item if sealed in the pack but just plain base cards if taken out.

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Hi Bill,

That discussion is here and it contains a link to another one about those cards:

http://nonsportupdate.infopop....4605453/m/1927018496



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Originally posted by Bill Mullins:
Didn't the cards in the sample packs of the first Marvel set from Impel have variations compared to the "normal" cards?
 
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Both Wixiban and Jeff Allender's House of Cards list the following for Star Trek: The 25th Anniversary Series I:

37 Without diamond symbol, from cello pack of five
86 Without diamond symbol, from cello pack of five
128 Without diamond symbol, from cello pack of five
130 Without diamond symbol, from cello pack of five
133 Without diamond symbol, from cello pack of five
37 With diamond symbol
86 With diamond symbol
128 With diamond symbol
130 With diamond symbol
133 With diamond symbol

Both sites indicate Series II only had a three-card cello pack (#171, #195, and #226).

Based solely on pictures from eBay, I'd say the cards in the cello packs are identical to the base cards.

I've never seen individual cards with a diamond symbol, but a 4-up promo panel with cards #37, #128, #130, and #133 does have grey diamonds printed on the back of the cards. Here's a photo from an eBay auction:

 
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Recently, I ran across a sealed cello-pack I hadn't seen before. It was sold as a G.I. Joe promo pack by !mpel from 1991. I couldn't tell how many cards were in it but soon found out it was a 5-card pack. I figured out that the top card was #53 and could see that the back of the bottom card had #175 on it (base set goes to 200). I was told all the packs had the same top and bottom card. Neither card was marked as a promo nor prototype.

I bought it and opened it. The cards inside are numbered 2, 36, 53, 116, and 175 (not in that order in the pack). I didn't have the base set but was able to look at some base singles online and then ordered #175 to take a good look at an actual card. It turns out the pack has at least three unmarked prototypes (2, 116, 175) that differ from the regular base cards in the back text. Cards 36 and 53 appear to be identical but I don't have the actual cards to see if there is any minor color difference.

Card 175 from the base set says "File Name: Unknown" in bold type on the left right under "Honor Roll" on the back but #175 in the cello-pack says "Branch: Cobra Operative" in regular type right under "Honor Roll." There are other text differences in the same field with basically the same information rearranged.

Also, in the field below that one, there is a paragraph in which the 4th line of the base card says "uncle" while card 175 from the cello-pack says "father."

At some point I will pick up a sample of the other base card numbers and get back to this thread. The scans below show the front of card 175 which is the same for both cards and then the prototype card back next to it and the base card back below the front.


 
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A set of 5 cards from the Uncanny X-Men promo (prototypes) pack (Impel, 1991) sold for $129 on 5-1-22. Another set sold for something less than $99.95 on 3-19-22 ($89-90?). This was a $10-20 set just a few years ago.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/14451...rksid=p2047675.l2557
 
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