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very interesting thread this one, as is the other one about the scarcest promos...

I dont collect cards as others collect them, i collect them for topic, rarity, meaningfullnes in the hobby, and basically because i like them. Vintage to Modern basically anything.

I have some insight into the ET card, because i was in an out of the Wall St Building at the time, with the crew there who were in charge of non sport nearly every quarter.

I was there the day the sheets of cards came in, and i can tell you there were two sheets of 9, so 18 total. One sheet was passed around different departments at Topps and as far as i can remember it was framed and is still in the hands of topps, so that 9 that didnt get cut. the second sheet was cut the day was there, as i remember in the morning seeing the sheet in the afternoon seeing one card and sample wrapper design. So thats the other 9.

Now im not discounting that there may have been more sheets, but was told that these were the only two test sheets produced. I didnt recieve one, although i pushed and pushed to get one.

I did buy one from the person who showed me the sheet, who left topps a few months later, and at the time, and i cant remember which year, may have been 10 years ago, i think i paid $500 for it. I sold it about a year later again cant remember the price, and regretted it ever since.

I did buy one a couple of years ago though and in a trade and cash from memory from someone on here who contacted me after seeing a thread that i still wanted it. Again i really cant remember the price.

I have heard of one recently that was bieng touted about graded for $2000. Is it worth it, probably not, are they rare, yes i believe they are. But they are more of a prototype than a promo.

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Well, that's almost as "straight from the horse's mouth" as may be. Thanks Darren! I've always assumed they were more of a prototype than a promo card, or even the result of a very short print run. Even so, a nice card, just the same Smile

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Thanks Darren for the input.
We need more info like you provided on a variety of promo/prototype cards whose history is unknown or sketchy. Anyone else?



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The 1994 Skybox Simpsons Series II P4 "Willie the Dupe Dipken" promo must be pretty rare. I've only run across 1 or 2 despite looking for them ever since they came out 15 years ago.

The card was a Diamond Comics Distributors promo card and was not given out to the general public, only retailers. Plus, there are no major Simpsons characters on it and I believe it was issued in a cello packet with sports cards, so there is a very good chance many of seemingly few produced were just thrown away.

I'm curious as to how many people have seen one in person, and how many people have one (particually among Simpsons and promo card collector's in general). I do have one.

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please post a picture of the P4 if you can Smile

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The 1994 Skybox Simpsons Series II P4 "Willie the Dupe Dipken" promo must be pretty rare.

I'm curious as to how many people have seen one in person, and how many people have one (particually among Simpsons and promo card collector's in general). I do have one.


I have one as well. The front is basically the same as the B1 promo.

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There were two sold on Ebayin recent memory. One sold for $157.00 (9/06) and the other for $170.00 (2/07).

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There were two sold on Ebayin recent memory. One sold for $157.00 (9/06) and the other for $170.00 (2/07).

Andy


Andy, are you referring to the Simpsons P4 or to the E.T. prototype? It sounds like the former but ... Thank you

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The retailer's exclusive Simpsons P4 card is indeed essentially the same on the front as the B1 version (found in comics).

The backs of the two cards however, are significantly different. The P4 reverse side has humorous baseball card type statistics for the famed Springfield (now Albuquerque) Isotopes slugger, whereas the B4 version simply has the standard (typeset) ad promoting Simpsons comics.

Going back to the original question, here is an absolutely true anecdote:

At the San Diego Comic-Con in 1996, I remember very well a Topps representative coming up to the retailer at the booth I was working at, and showing off a 3-D type Star Wars card for a set that was in the VERY early planning stages. He asked for not only the opinion of the retailer I was employed by, but also for that of all of us workers as well, and the other dealer's around us. (I believe he was questioning pretty much any dealer that handled cards, the Con, while large already by then, was not nearly the zoo it is today).

Anyway, everyone who saw the card agreed it was "awesome" (or perhaps some other 1996 superlative then in vogue) and that the set would be very welcome by dealers and collectors if produced.

The Topps representive absolutely would not let the card out of his sight and laughed out loud when I asked for it. I vaguely recall his telling me the card was a one of a kind.

Well, the set was never produced, so it's doubtful more promos were made and if so, by virtue of it being a one of kind, I would say this card is by definition, at least tied in terms of owning the distincition of being the rarest promo card ever.

I wish I could remember exactly what the card looked like so that I could describe it in some detial, but my memory on that is hazy, sad to say. I do remember it being a beautiful card, and this was after the Star Wars 3DI set was made, so I'm not confusing it with that (Also, I do not recall the card being "Widevision" as was the 3DI set).

Finally, I suppose this card may have been a "prototype" as opposed to a "promo" card which would disqualify it from this discussion. Is there anyone out there who perhaps shared my experience in San Diego back in 1996, and can therefore hopefully elaborate?

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Bill, I was referring to the Simnpsons P4 card.

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I was asked by John Oder to post a scan of the Simpsons P4 for him:



Wish I had the card. Frown

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Thanks for posting the picture Mike.

It a very hard card to find, I looked for 10 Years, it was the last card I needed to finish my Simpson's cards. I got very lucky and a friend gave the card to me.
 
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I see there's a Simpsons P4 at the 'Bay for bids as we speak! It's out of my price range (no mean feat lol) Ahh well... All's fair, as they say Wink

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All I see on the "Bay" is the Simpsons 10th Anniv. P4.
 
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All I see on the "Bay" is the Simpsons 10th Anniv. P4.


You have to widen your search to Simpsons promo cards in general. Wink

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Yeah, I guess I was being too specific, Thanks for the link, John.
 
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Originally posted by chesspieceface:
The retailer's exclusive Simpsons P4 card is indeed essentially the same on the front as the B1 version (found in comics).

The backs of the two cards however, are significantly different. The P4 reverse side has humorous baseball card type statistics for the famed Springfield (now Albuquerque) Isotopes slugger, whereas the B4 version simply has the standard (typeset) ad promoting Simpsons comics.

Going back to the original question, here is an absolutely true anecdote:

At the San Diego Comic-Con in 1996, I remember very well a Topps representative coming up to the retailer at the booth I was working at, and showing off a 3-D type Star Wars card for a set that was in the VERY early planning stages. He asked for not only the opinion of the retailer I was employed by, but also for that of all of us workers as well, and the other dealer's around us. (I believe he was questioning pretty much any dealer that handled cards, the Con, while large already by then, was not nearly the zoo it is today).

Anyway, everyone who saw the card agreed it was "awesome" (or perhaps some other 1996 superlative then in vogue) and that the set would be very welcome by dealers and collectors if produced.

The Topps representive absolutely would not let the card out of his sight and laughed out loud when I asked for it. I vaguely recall his telling me the card was a one of a kind.

Well, the set was never produced, so it's doubtful more promos were made and if so, by virtue of it being a one of kind, I would say this card is by definition, at least tied in terms of owning the distincition of being the rarest promo card ever.

I wish I could remember exactly what the card looked like so that I could describe it in some detial, but my memory on that is hazy, sad to say. I do remember it being a beautiful card, and this was after the Star Wars 3DI set was made, so I'm not confusing it with that (Also, I do not recall the card being "Widevision" as was the 3DI set).

Finally, I suppose this card may have been a "prototype" as opposed to a "promo" card which would disqualify it from this discussion. Is there anyone out there who perhaps shared my experience in San Diego back in 1996, and can therefore hopefully elaborate?


Are you talking about the split image promo? They are not one of a kind. Really cool promo though. Topps ended up making the regular chrome cards instead of these split image cards.

I am not sure if this came out in 1996 or 1995, but around there.

Anyway, if the card you mean is really 3Di, and not different like the split image promo, then it is a different card.

David

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I don't know which is the rarest.

But what is the MOST VALUABLE promo card on that list (according to the price guides)?
 
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I'd love to have that ET motion card Luv You


amen!

to be honest, I don't know which is the rarest.
But that ET motion card is definitely the best looking promo card I have ever seen!
 
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I think what we are all missing is which card has the smallest production numbers and how many of that specific card do we actually know of. For instance the Speed Racer P3 is out there. Probably 20-30 known. The Godzilla promo is out there too, I sold one myself earlier this year and I will bet that someone is sitting on a pile of them, letting them out one card at a time. Maybe 5 to 10 of the ET cards are in personal collections so that is pretty rare. Biosphere promos are all over the place, someone on ebay had 45 of them up for bid over the summer. The Lion King SB1 was printed by the thousands and many of them wound up in the trash at the super bowl. Superman SW1 is also not rare by any means. I bought 8 of them from Greta Petersen about 10 years ago and sold them all off. Who knows how many she had. But the Desert Storm card and map set promos by far are the rarest of all. Maybe not the most valuable, but they own the title of the ultimate rarest promos. Only 100 of each card were produced. There are 10 different promos in the set. They were handed out at an air show in Texas in 1991 one card per kid. Most of the cards wound up blowing around on the tarmac after the kids tossed them away. So the chances of owning one single mint card let alone the complete set of 10 is almost impossible. To date, only 2 complete sets are known to exist. One is in Michigan and I have the other. I turned down an offer for the 10 cards about 2 years ago. So in all actuality, it all depends on how many are out there, that is what makes them rare. It would be a good idea if we could keep track of who owns what so we know the actual numbers.

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